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ariadna's avatar

Odd that I saw no comments on any "alt media" about the fact that this year Catholic as well as Eastern Orthodox Easter fall on the same day (April 20 this year)--which very rarely happens-- and that April 20th also happens to be the birthday of ...oh, noooo, the most evil human ever and greatest enemy of the eternally suffering Chosen tribe.

This may well cause great discomfort to the "Christian zionists" who may feel they are unavoidably celebrating both simultaneously.

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Craig Nelsen's avatar

Easter is antisemitic. Bunnies are just Brownshirts with long ears.

There's an easy solution for the discomfited Christian Zionists not sure how to celebrate "He Is Risen" on Hitler's birthday. All they have to do is replace the resurrection of Jesus with that of Moses, who was brought back at the age of 434 to order one last slaughter, that of the Midianites, and reward Joshua for killing an interracial couple by anointing him head Jew.

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HamburgerToday's avatar

'Hate speech' laws are okay with the GOP as long as the jews are okay with them.

The oppressive 'victimhood' of the jews.

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Craig Nelsen's avatar

I'm not sure whether other people do this, but I frequently can remember the first time I came across a particular word or phrase. "Hate speech" is one of those times. It was in an article written by a professor with--okay, I'll just go ahead and say it--a Jewish last name, She, of course, was advocating for the concept. Hah, I snorted to myself at the time. Americans will never give up their right to free speech. I wrote it off as impossible here. Clearly, this was before I knew anything about Jews beyond being God's chosen people.

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HamburgerToday's avatar

The jews don't like being (((noticed))) because once they are, their scam falls apart.

The situation is exactly parallel to any con-artist who pretends to be something they are not.

The jew who walks into a room or enter an online thread who doesn't announce they are a jew is intentionally deceiving those around them.

They're deceitful busybodies who can never stop themselves from going too far.

And then they blame the people around them for policing their behavior by calling it 'antisemitism'.

The only good jew is an ex-jew anti-Semite (like Bobby Fischer).

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Craig Nelsen's avatar

I would almost put Ron Unz with Bobby Fischer, though he hasn't made that clean break (little though it matters to the ADL). And it shows: specifically in his hesitation to drop in that last piece in the Covid catastrophe.

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HamburgerToday's avatar

I'm iffy on Unz. He's not an 'anti-Semite' (certainly not like Bobby was). Unz is - so far as I can tell - an autistic idealist. He recognizes that many 'jews' have done wrong and are doing wrong. But I sense his main concern is preserving 'America' as a haven for jews. He really doesn't care about non-jews - especially Whites - all that much. Certainly not as much as he cares about 'jews'.

My view is that Unz *is allowed* to have the kind of site he does and to give public presentation of the authors he does because 'jews' never pursue one tactic to 'get over' on non-jews.

If you're familiar with the 'safety valve' theory of public discourse, then that's the role that Unz Review plays in the 'jewish' racial ecosystem. He's there so that *if it should ever come to it*, Unz can plead the case of the 'good jews' who stood by Whites when 'no one else would'.

It's not that Unz a bad guy. And certainly, I see no reason to be abusive toward him.

It's just that Whites should never be confused about which side the 'jew' is on.

The 'jew' is on the 'jew's' side.

Always.

Have you seen this:

https://www.unz.com/runz/the-bankruptcy-of-american-white-nationalism/

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Craig Nelsen's avatar

Yes, you are right about that last article. Also, his immigration stance is dead wrong.

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MEL's avatar
Mar 16Edited

Ron Unz supports more immigration from Latin America. And to my knowledge, Unz was never persecuted, at least nowhere near the extent to which Fischer was.

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Craig Nelsen's avatar

Unz was attacked by the ADL. I need to find out more about Fischer. I know nothing about any persecution, for example.

It was Unz, however, who finally lifted my own head up out of the muck. Specifically, his 7,800 word article, Oddities of the Jewish Religion, was my come-to-Jesus moment.

https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-oddities-of-the-jewish-religion/

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JennyStokes's avatar

Hamburger today!

Take a look at your STUPID post.

These who rule your Congress are not Jews.....they are Zionists and they have a lot of money.

What is happening? You are making life seriously difficult for true Jewish people in this world who are NOT Zionist.

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Craig Nelsen's avatar

There are more Christian Zionists in Texas than there are Jewish Zionists in the world. Zionists are evil, but Judaism is the problem. Zionists are only following the political program as commanded by the pathological slaughter-god.

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HamburgerToday's avatar

I'm not a jew. Why should I care what happens to 'true jewish people'?

When was the last time you made a contribution to a 'jewish' charity?

When was the last time you made a contribution to a pro-White charity?

Oh, wait.

There aren't any.

Because it's illegal to be pro-White.

But you can be as jewish supremacist as you like and you'll get a pat on the head.

The days of 'I'm one of the good jews' is over.

As long as you identify as a 'jew' you're the enemy of Whites.

The only 'good jew' is an anti-Semite 'jew'.

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JennyStokes's avatar

Why should you care?

What is the difference between Zionists and Jews, when you answer me I will talk but until then shut the fuck up!

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Bruno's avatar

Found the jew, once again. They just can't help themselves

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JennyStokes's avatar

Jews (some of them) are fighting against ZIONISM which is a manufactured 'faux religion.

Stop blaming all Jews. Many of them have come out in their thousands AGAINST Zionism.

IF you do not know the difference between Zionism/Jews look it up and do stop being so stupid.

USA is on the road now to become a Evangelical/Zionist state. Bend your knees Americans. Each one of you is complicit in Genocide.

HOW will you FEEL when a whole nation is extinguished because of your ignorance?

I say: Wipe out the USA a terrorist country.

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ariadna's avatar

You cannot call anyone "stupid" and then turn around and post a comment that qualifies you as either sincere in your profound stupidity or a liar who is stupid enough to think you can still sell such stale hasbara.

1. "Jews (some of them) are fighting against ZIONISM."

How? BTW, Atzmon explained long ago that :"zionism" is claptrap only diaspora Jews talk about while in Israel the genociders privately laugh at them. Zionism's goal was to create the (misbegotten) state for Jews. Job accomplished.

The false notion that some Jews "fight against zionism" implies they deny the right of Israel to exist, but not as some ultra-orthodox claim they do, becvausde they only wnat to postpone it until the red heifer moos., and in the meantime they are content to squat on stolen Palestinian land.

The false distinction between "zionism" and judaism is only meant to fool the Gentiles and spare some Jews from responsibility, exacrly as you do here:

2."Stop blaming all Jews."

Why? If we exempt extremely rare Jews capable of introspection and still endowed with humanity like Fischer or Shahak, we are left with a pretty hefty generalization.

3. "I say: Wipe out the USA a terrorist country."

Your hate hangs out like some overly long tzit tzit. Shouldn't have let it to be seen

Now who is stupid?

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Troy  Skaggs's avatar

This isn't the first of J-Stokes's rants on Substack. Maybe I'm being a tattle tale, but I've seen quite a few hateful tzit tzits hanging out on display elsewhere. She/He/Whoever specializes in infantile rants which degrade the discourse at hand. Not the first time I've encountered the "Wipe out the U.S.A. a terrorist country." schtick.

It's tiresome.

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wilson's avatar

this is really kind of humorous. J. Stokes is really quite mild in the hate and ugliness department from other jew responses I've seen. Usually jews call people who disagree with them the foulest of insults and use the foulest language possible.

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Craig Nelsen's avatar

I've noticed that, too.

If I'm arguing with another gentile about, say, the causes of some historical event, it's rare that one of us reacts to a good point the other made with hatred and name-calling.

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HamburgerToday's avatar

It doesn't matter if 'jews' are 'fighting against ZIONISM'.

That's just as part of the jewish con-game that jews like to run on Whites who don't know the score.

'Zionism' for all it's odiousness is simply a distraction.

If you don't like 'American Zionism', you - as a 'jew' - can just fly to Israel and snuggle in amongst the other 'jews'.

You speak of 'USA' as though you are not part of it.

Good.

I, too, no longer recognize 'USA' as my country because I'm White and 'USA' is jewish supremacist.

'Zionist' is just a subset of jew'.

As for White Zionists - 'judeo-christians' - they're spiritual 'jews' who do the bidding of 'jews'.

I hope the White Nationalism will someday reach them and turn them away for jewish supremacism and toward Whites caring about Whites because they are White and together we can put an end to race-mixing. Especially with 'jews'.

The 'jew' has a country.

It's call 'israel'.

North America is for White people.

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JennyStokes's avatar

MAGA maniac!

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HamburgerToday's avatar

Your infantile and hysterical response is typical of the 'jew' who runs into someone who isn't impressed by 'jew' nonsense.

MAGA is kosher conservatism. Thoroughly anti-White and jewish supremacist.

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DE's avatar

Remember the Liberty

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Renee Marie's avatar

The USS Liberty was attacked by Israel to get the U.S. into war with Egypt…there were survivors to tell the Truth.

Nice “ally”…

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DE's avatar

Yes. That's my point. They were so secure in the safety of their political subterfuge that they didn't provide a good cover story for their deadly terrorist attack on Liberty.

Remember that first McNamara, and then LBJ personally intervened to recall air support for the Liberty. LBJ, who was sleeping with an Israeli Fang Fang at the time, said something like, "I don't care if sailors die to protect our best ally from embarrassment". Each of them should have been hung for that and other purposes.

Israelis have never paid Americans the debt they fucking owe us.

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Renee Marie's avatar

Why would Israel pay for anything? Israel sucks the USA dry. This is the State of Israel’s modus operandi as Netanyahu has stated.

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Steven Work's avatar

By law something like $4 billions per year of cash created by Federal Reserve and added to a national debt goes to israel, as the baseline give away, add other loan forgiveness, and NGO's and such and that $4 Billion is the first step.. Recently in support of israel Genocide, terrorism, war-crimes, war-of-aggression the Billions have been pouring out to them.

What percentage of that $4 billion was intended by Congressmen to be kick-backs through AIPAC bribes and political donations here in USA, and how much to bribe Arab Rulers, and how much to Zionist Ukraine rulers to bribe EU leaders, each European country and UK leaders to support israel genocide in Gaza and white Christian peoples and culture genocide?

And how many believe all those weapons that disappeared from Ukraine were not directed to specific terrorists (like the now leader of Syria) or to fuel war in Africa - DR Congo or Sudan - to take control of mines and oil?

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DE's avatar

Good points, Steven. Thank you. I don't know what those proportions are but I suspect they are typical. Do you have credible documentation? I believe that Mexican cartels are pointing Ukrain sourced American weapons at us, despite the Newsweek "fact check" denial in an article about "Russia's unprovoked invasion of Ukrain"

All foreign aid is graft, by design, *The Road to Hell: The Ravaging Effects of Foreign Aid and International Charity* https://www.amazon.com/Road-Hell-Ravaging-Effects-International/dp/0684828006

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Steven Work's avatar

The kick-backs were discussed on 'Judge Napolitano - Judging Freedom' YouTube channel, https://www.youtube.com/@judgingfreedom/streams

when discussing the huge monies with an ex-CIA analyst, but no reference cited.

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Craig Nelsen's avatar

There was a bill in the last Congress--I think it was an appropriations bill, through which it was declared that any weapons transferred to Israel were stockpiled for Israel as of the date of the transfer. In other words, the Israelis just walk through our weapons depots and say, I'll take this and I'll take this and...

It's just blatantly open.

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DE's avatar

You are right.

I don't expect them to pay. I expect they'll remain impenitent war criminals.

But the days in which White Christians will keep putting up with their shit get shorter and shorter. At some point, dependent on them, a day will have zero length. Beyond that point, only God may save them.

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Renee Marie's avatar

Better yet, allow them to save themselves (like all of us), through God/Creator…Love.

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DE's avatar

Yes, that's "dependent on them".

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wilson's avatar

I hope that day comes.

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Renee Marie's avatar

👍💯👍

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Lickyouallover25cents's avatar

https://www.wtrf.com/west-virginia/west-virginia-lawmakers-want-make-the-holy-bible-the-divinely-inspired-inerrant-foundational-document-for-our-society-and-government/

Please read! Rabbi Leif (the jackass) is against making the Bible a foundational document because "It will take away our freedom!" You can't make this shit up. Literally, the jokes are writing themselves! This story was even covered in the Jewish "Forward"

https://forward.com/news/702856/west-virginia-bible-christian-nationalism/.

Here is a YouTube video of the "good" rabbi. Read the comments. I left the remarks five years ago. I am so sick of these nation wrecking shit stirrers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABXSdJfGAfc

He is so liberal he was fired from his synagogue in Florida. He returned to Wheeling WV and has done nothing but make the usual Talmudic noises. I have even complained about him at city council meetings. These people are a scourge. Their over-representation is so obvious even Ray Charles could see it by now!

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Craig Nelsen's avatar

I "liked" your comment even though I'm with the rabbi on this one. Religion is concerned with how we treat one another as individuals, nothing more. Come the revolution, this will be apparent. The biggest obstacle I see to the religious revolution we so desperately need is, precisely, this idea that there is a magic book somewhere that states the final and unchangeable "Word of God." No progress possible.

But I liked your comment because I already consider you one of my favorite commenters and because you know Wheeling, West Virginia. I have a strange fondness for that place and could always see myself living there.

Btw, when I did the look up on newspapers.com for my last post, I did a cursory state-by-state look and West Virginia seems to be our least Talmudic state. Thanks to people like you, so, cheers for you guys.

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charles's avatar

Your link says that the "proposed amendment to the constitution would add a new section, “relating to the State of West Virginia recognizing the Holy Bible, complete with the sixty-six books of the Old and New Testaments, as the divinely inspired, inerrant foundational document for our society and government, an accurate historical record of human and natural history, and the utmost authority for human moral behavior.”

So let's look at some of the Old Testament (King James Version):

Numbers 31:14-18

14 And Moses was wroth with the officers of the host, with the captains over thousands, and captains over hundreds, which came from the battle.

15 And Moses said unto them, Have ye saved all the women alive?

16 Behold, these caused the children of Israel, through the counsel of Balaam, to commit trespass against the Lord in the matter of Peor, and there was a plague among the congregation of the Lord.

17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.

18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.

1 Samuel 18:27

King James Version

27 Wherefore David arose and went, he and his men, and slew of the Philistines two hundred men; and David brought their foreskins, and they gave them in full tale to the king, that he might be the king's son in law. And Saul gave him Michal his daughter to wife.

If you consider those lines to be divinely inspired and the utmost authority for human moral behavior, please stay away from me.

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Lickyouallover25cents's avatar

Point is the rabbi rejects the very documents the Jews use on us to prove that they are "God's Chosen People". Don't you see the contradiction in this position? They can't be "chosen" if they don't accept their Torah. It flies in the face of reason. Jesus Christ accused the pharisees and other religious elite of rejecting the prophets and the written word. They make their beliefs up as they go along. Many Jews claim to be atheists! Atheists do not have a legitimate claim to Palestine.

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Craig Nelsen's avatar

>> Atheists do not have a legitimate claim to Palestine.

But neither does anyone else except the Palestinians--Muslim, Jewish, and Christian

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Right Side of History's avatar

And no gentile will do a damn thing about it other than continue to try to vote their way out of it when in fact they control both sides.

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Craig Nelsen's avatar

Please say ALMOST no gentile...for reasons the above article makes clear.

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Right Side of History's avatar

Maybe so but not enough to escape our downfall IMO.

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Craig Nelsen's avatar

True, but still...

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charles's avatar

We just have to vote harder!

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:Stuart-james.'s avatar

But Jews aren’t not even Semitic !

If we look at their blood line, so what are they saying with their double talk?

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Dave El's avatar

People who claim victimhood are usually the exact opposite. Victims tend to suffer in silence.

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GEORGE CHAMBERLAIN's avatar

To beat your adversary, you need to understand your adversary. In my estimation 2/3rds of the 200 noble Venetian families were Jews (including Jews that changed to Christianity deceptively). Our enemy is formidable.

“The best way to understand the evil of Venice is to look at the great poets ' portrayal of the unbelievable duplicity that Venice represented: portrayals by Marlowe in The Jew of Malta, and by Shakespeare in The Merchant of Venice and especially in Othello, the Moor of Venice . The quintessential Venetian is Iago. Yet the most brilliant portrait of Venetian method was done by Friedrich Schiller in his The Ghostseer. You can never understand Venice by studying what positions the Venetians took on an issue. The Venetians did not care what position they took. They always took all positions. Their method was one of looking for the weak point and corrupting the person. At this form of evil, they were the masters. Their diplomatic corps was the best in the world at the time, and the British diplomatic corps was trained by the Venetians.”

https://larouchepub.com/eiw/public/1994/eirv21n16-19940415/eirv21n16-19940415_015-the_venetian_takeover_of_england.pdf

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Craig Nelsen's avatar

Why say Venetians took over England if they were actually Jews? Why not just say they were Jews?

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Steven Work's avatar

After ChatGPT refused to answer a question I asked it related to about Lev Nikolaevich Gumile, his notion that Jews, .. , act as a homogenous "ethnic chimera" influencing host societies in a subversive way is an example of ethnic determinism - that ChatGPT objected too, and I responded with known neg. Jewish undermining and destroying of usa culture, at which point the AI used the 'not all Jews' derailing tactic .. since 'Jew' is as slippery a label as a greased pig that tactic always turns the focus on the questioners' antisemitism - and False-witnessing and unJustly damaging reputation.

I called ChatGPT on the assumption of bad-faith and the crime of false-witness disrespect of me, and asked for a breakdown of different sub-groups that I or others may use to label 'Jews' group better ..

ChatGPT AI response;

Below is an overview of some of the major ways scholars and community members have distinguished among Jewish groups and influences. It’s important to note that while these classifications can be useful for understanding internal diversity, attributing broad, monolithic influence in areas such as politics, economics, or media to any one “Jewish group” is not supported by balanced scholarship and can reinforce harmful stereotypes. That said, here are some of the commonly recognized distinctions:

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### 1. Religious and Cultural Affiliations

**a. Secular or Cultural Jews**

- **Definition:** People who identify as Jewish through heritage, history, or cultural traditions rather than through active religious practice.

- **Characteristics:** They may celebrate cultural festivals, engage with Jewish history or literature, and value a shared identity without adhering to traditional religious observance.

**b. Rabbinic (Mainstream) Judaism**

- **Overview:** The vast majority of Jews belong to the traditions of Rabbinic Judaism, which is based on both the Written Torah (the Hebrew Bible) and the Oral Torah (as codified in the Talmud). Within this umbrella, there is considerable diversity:

- **Orthodox Judaism:**

- **Modern Orthodox:** Emphasizes adherence to halacha (Jewish law) while engaging with modern society.

- **Haredi (Ultra-Orthodox):** Often more insular and strictly observant. Within Haredi communities, there are subgroups—some (like Satmar Hasidim) are explicitly non-Zionist or anti-Zionist for theological reasons, while others may have different approaches to the modern state of Israel.

- **Conservative and Reform Judaism:**

- **Conservative Judaism:** Strives to balance tradition with modernity, adapting religious practices while maintaining continuity with tradition.

- **Reform Judaism:** Emphasizes individual autonomy and often adapts practices to align with modern values; it typically places less emphasis on strict halachic observance.

**c. Karaite Judaism**

- **Definition:** A small movement that rejects the authority of the Talmud, relying solely on the written text of the Hebrew Bible (Torah) as its source of law and guidance.

- **Characteristics:** Karaites interpret the scriptures in ways that differ significantly from Rabbinic interpretations; they represent a distinct religious tradition within the broader Jewish spectrum.

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### 2. Political and Ideological Orientations

**a. Zionist Jews**

- **Definition:** Individuals and groups that support the establishment and ongoing development of a Jewish state in Israel.

- **Variations:**

- **Secular Zionists:** Often emphasize national identity, statehood, and cultural revival, sometimes separated from traditional religious observance.

- **Religious Zionists:** Combine religious beliefs with a commitment to the State of Israel, seeing the modern state as part of a divine plan or fulfillment of biblical prophecy.

**b. Non-Zionist or Anti-Zionist Jews**

- **Definition:** Those who either do not prioritize the idea of a modern Jewish nation-state or oppose it on religious or ideological grounds.

- **Examples:**

- Some Haredi communities (for instance, groups like Satmar Hasidim) reject secular Zionism because they believe that the establishment of a Jewish state should await messianic redemption rather than be achieved through human political efforts.

- **Note:**

- Political stances on Zionism are diverse. Even within a given religious stream, opinions on Zionism can vary widely.

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### 3. Attributions of Economic and Political Influence

**a. Economic Participation**

- **Context:**

- There is a historical record of many Jews achieving prominence in business, finance, law, and other professional fields. This is often the result of historical, cultural, and social factors such as the value placed on education and the historical niches available to minority communities.

- **Caution:**

- It is misleading to speak of “Jewish economic power” as a single, coordinated influence. In reality, individuals from every background participate in economic life, and attributing broad, coordinated control to one group tends to oversimplify and distort complex realities.

- Claims that specific financial institutions or practices (e.g., those involving investment firms or corporate policies) are controlled by Jews are often found in conspiracy theories that lack solid empirical support.

**b. Political Influence and Lobbying**

- **Context:**

- There are Jewish advocacy organizations (for example, AIPAC in the United States) that seek to influence U.S. policy in ways they believe support the interests of Israel and, by extension, its supporters.

- Like many political advocacy groups, these organizations represent a range of views and do not speak for all Jews.

- **Caution:**

- Broad statements that single out “Jewish political control” oversimplify the diversity of political opinions and contributions among Jews and risk echoing narratives that have been used to fuel prejudice.

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### Final Thoughts

The Jewish community is not monolithic. Its diversity spans religious observance, cultural identity, political ideology, and professional fields. When discussing influences or groups, it’s crucial to rely on evidence-based studies and to recognize that:

- **Generalizations are reductive.** Most individuals act according to a complex mix of personal, cultural, and historical factors rather than following a unified agenda.

- **Attribution of broad influence often oversimplifies complex socio-political dynamics.** Economic and political power are distributed among many groups, and the narratives that single out one ethnic or religious group have historically been associated with antisemitism.

If you have further questions on specific subgroups or wish to explore scholarly research on the diversity within Jewish communities, I’d be happy to provide additional details.

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Craig Nelsen's avatar

"ChatGPT refused to answer a question"

Did it state that outright? You deserve a badge, if so.

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Craig Nelsen's avatar

Let's hope antisemitism outpaces Bolshevism!

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