That Judaism is poisonous can be proven by the fact that the followers of any religion I can think of can be virtuous, humane, just, and peaceful people IF they follow the basic credo and moral tenets of their respective religions, EXCEPT for Jews.
Judaism teaches and urges its tribal followers to be callous, cruel, greedy and murderous supremacists.
Other religions teach people that virtue/honor is its own reward (the Jews scoff: "What's the percentage in that?"), that there is something greater than any and all of us, a loving God, that there is spiritual life after death.
Jews are sure there is nothing greater than their tribe, that their god, a suspiciously close reproduction of their own image, is petty, cruel and vengeful so they need to observe the laws explained by the rabbis. There is only 'now' and the only measure of worth is the quantity of loot accumulated by hook or by crook.
I fail to see how your comment is any kind of refutation of my comment, unless you were. confused by indentation, and yours was meant as a stand alone comment.
The fact that you later on contemptuously keep calling the Christians "crucifixionists," makes me wonder what you would call the devout judaics.
Vampiric pedophiles? Blood-thirsty parasites? Mass murdering robbers? Metastasis of a sinister Bronze Age atavism? Hard to choose. Help me.
You’re correct. Jesus didn’t do any of these things. What he did was bring forth the New Cover covenant.
Through His sacrificial death on the cross, Jesus established a new covenant between God and humanity, in which His blood serves as the ultimate atonement for sin and brings about forgiveness and reconciliation with God.
In the Old Testament, God established covenants with various individuals and groups, such as with Noah after the flood, with Abraham and his descendants, and with the people of Israel through Moses and the giving of the Law. These covenants were agreements in which God promised blessings and protection in exchange for obedience and faithfulness from His people.
That’s the truth and beauty of true Christianity. God’s love is available to us all. He doesn’t (and never has) played favorites.
The most influential early Christians (including Christ himself) were Jews. But some were unwilling to accept the new terms and Covenant and wanted to go on believing that God plays favorites. He doesn’t ✝️🙏🏻✝️
Being a crucifixionist indicates your desire for ritual and fluffy, that's not required, when you mentioned noahide that's the origin of the noahide laws that allow you to be close to the one true God without all the irrational contradictory paradoxes and parables
Being that this article was about hating Jews reflecting Christian teachings and beliefs the problem is you folks, Jews don't buy it Jews don't trust you Jews know the guile of the gentile
Duly noted that Jews don't proselytize like used car salesman, with the edgy Christian hate Factor
Luke 14:26
"If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters-yes, even their own life-such a person cannot be my disciple.
Matthew 10:34-35
34. Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.
35. For I have come to turn a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law
I think he is recognized by some rabbis as the Josephic messiah, the metaphorical lesser twin of the Davidic messiah, the still-awaited Moshiach. Adam Green alerted me to this. It's spelled out in great detail by a couple of different authors. And what about the Jews for Jesus/Messianic Jews? They see him as a prophet.
Rabbi Tovia Singer has insight for those who seek truth and refutes the j4j sillies constantly, eloquently and ongoingly with eloquence and unsurpassed Jewish grace.
The comment sections under his videos include Muslims argumentative crucifixionists and Noah hides who are satisfied at finding out how much the church misled them through its obfuscations paradoxes and parables all while snacking on Jesus meat and blood (theophagy 🙊) on the wrong Sabbath and exercising the goatscape option against the Jews whenever possible to make up for the failings and flailings of the 35,000 churches
If you believed what you just spewed you'd have given names, crucifixionists lie and say that famous rabbis wrote notes that were found but that's been repudiated in the same way that JC being the Jewish Messiah was
Islam fits the bill better than Judaism as a religious culture where if the follower dutifully follows it, the results are pernicious. There are also problems with Judaism, but they are subtler and more complex than Islam.
Do please tell us what the "subtler" problems of judaism are. I only know of the gross, stridently unsubtle ones like those in Deuteronomy for example.
I don’t consider Israelite stuff to be “Judaism” per se — mostly the religious culture of the Pharisees of the 1st century as it continued to evolve through the Middle Ages into Modernity then Post-Modernity. One subtle problem is an odd penchant for sexual perversions leading to their normalization; another is a tendency toward agnostic/atheist existentialism — both of these amplified and weaponized against their millennial object of hatred: Christianity.
You say: "I don’t consider Israelite stuff to be “Judaism” per se — mostly the religious culture of the Pharisees of the 1st century as it continued to evolve through the Middle Ages into Modernity then Post-Modernity.”
Phew! What a relief! Thank Yahweh that you clarified this.
The “Israelite stuff” — subtle things like the jews’ ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians that matured into a full-blown ongoing genocide, the mass killings of Lebanese, Syrians, Yemenites, and, by proxy, Iraquis, were the work of the bad “Pharisees," nothing to do with “Judaism per se.”
I imagine the good Jews who observe “Judaism per se” know this. If not you must redirect your education efforts to them, helping them to liberate themselves from the Pharisee yoke that has so besmirched the noble judaism.
You also say:
"One subtle problem is an odd penchant for sexual perversions leading to their normalization; another is a tendency toward agnostic/atheist existentialism — both of these amplified and weaponized against their millennial object of hatred: Christianity.”
The "odd penchant for sexual perversions leading to their normalization” --like incest, proxenetism, pedophilia, necrophilia — are not “odd penchants” but practices described in the Torah, not as abominations, but as instances of clever Judaic strategy (examples available upon request).
This makes me wonder if them nasty Pharisees got into the Torah early on and corrupted the noble judaism beyond repair, and if so, can judaism be rehabilitated and saved for the sake of humanity?
I take it that Christianity seen as the Jews’ “millennial object of hatred” is also the work of the Pharisees, as is their burning hatred of all non-Jews — the “Amaleks”— explicitly stated in the Torah before the advent of Christianity.
How the Pharisees managed to turn the Jews’ sincere and abiding love for Christians and all humanity into blood-thirsty hatred remains a mystery, at least to me.
PS. Is "hesperado" a typo? You mistyped "desperado"?
About sexual perversions in the Torah—I think you meant Talmud?
I'm not sure I would characterize a "noble judaism". And when you wrote "Pharisees managed to turn the Jews’ sincere and abiding love for Christians and all humanity into blood-thirsty hatred" I'm not sure which Jews you are talking about. The New Testament certainly shows mostly nameless crowds of what we assume are ordinary Jewish people (who seem to be inordinately suffering from poverty and diseases) admiring and sort of following Jesus, with a few Jews named more specifically among them (besides of course the disciples); but not all ordinary Jews liked Jesus; there's one example in one of the Gospels where a village of ordinary Jews try to lynch him and he has to escape.
I’d say the good religion of ancient Israel — in fidelity to the true God and His revelations to certain individuals — was always hanging on by a thread and routinely betrayed God and had to be shamed by individual prophets who would rise up periodically. By the time the centuries before Christ approached 0 A.D., the corruption had become institutionalized and normalized, and this is the Judaism which Jesus confronted and condemned. For this, the Jewish leadership (and probably the majority of ordinary Jews following them) wanted him killed. From the 1st century to now, I think it’s been approximately the same Jewish culture, going through many changes but always harboring the same enmity against Christianity. The only difference perhaps with post-modern Jews (from the 19th century to now) is that Jews mostly pretend they don’t hate Christianity.
My name “Hesperado” is from my former blog which I maintained for 11 years, from 2006 to early 2018. An early posting there explained my name:
You say: “Israelite” is not the same thing as “Israeli”
No problem. Let's just call them both “Jews."
You claim:
"About sexual perversions in the Torah—I think you meant Talmud?”
The Talmud is rich in examples, starting with the admissibility of intercourse with 3-yr-old girls, among others. But no, I meant the Torah. Even wikipedia could have enlightened you:
"The Hebrew Bible sets out several lists of sexual relations .. which are forbidden. Two lists appear in the Book of Leviticus and one list appears in the Book of Deuteronomy. One of the most notable features of each list is that sexual relations between a man and his own daughter are not explicitly forbidden...As with the case of a man's own daughter, the shortness of the list in Leviticus 20, and especially of that in Deuteronomy, are explained by classical Jewish scholarship as being due to the obviousness of the missing prohibitions.…
Other biblical scholars have instead proposed that forbidding incest with a daughter was originally in the list, but was then accidentally left out from the copy on which modern versions of the text ultimately depend, due to a mistake by the scribe…”
[I can see that the likes of Dershowitz are standing on the shoulders of giants.]
Unfortunately excluded from the Torah because he came too late, Herod the Great, who was the King of Judea during the Roman Empire, is said to have preserved the body of his deceased wife in honey for seven years. He loved her too much to let go. Apparently honey has amazing, but not unlimited, embalming properties: after 7 years sexual intercourse with her became difficult. Unique Jewish (Israelite, if you prefer) imagination, even when projected on others…. The dead still have their uses, like making lamp shades out of their skin.
You say " I'm not sure I would characterize a "noble judaism”.
Nor would you detect sarcasm, no matter how obvious.
Your statement that: "Jews (from the 19th century to now) ...mostly pretend they don’t hate Christianity" makes me wonder why, with so much practice, they fail so spectacularly to pretend plausiblhy?
So you came up with your handle, Hesperado, after having a 'nervous breakdown,' whereupon you saw yourself as
"a courageous supporter and champion of the modern West, whose writer recently—almost too late—became conscious of another culture representing not only regression, stagnation and savagery, but also an inveterate enmity against the West, from at least as early as the 7th century A.D. to the present: Islam.”
Is it fair to say that Judaism has as great a range of views as Christianity? I suspect so. Many Jews, included a segment in Israel I am told, are fervently anti-Zionist (although the majority of Israelis, acc'g to Haaretz polls, are apparently as bad as we fear, wrt to genociding the Palestinians).
As a practicing Christian (Roman Catholic) I can assure you that, among Christians, there is no widespread defense of what the Zionists are doing to their neighbors who have lived there for at least 1300 years -- far more than the interlopers who showed up in the last 80 or so year, claiming a deed from God. The Zionist faction of so-called Christianity is a terrifying group, with their junk theology and Schofield bible. They're wanna-be Jews IMO (I occasionally ask, why don't you just convert? A: because they don't want you. You don't have the right DNA, and this 'religion' is really just a bloodline which conveniently invokes the OT when it serves their purpose).
When you take out the CZs, you have other types of Protestants (the more liberal seem to be more sympathetic to Palestinians, but they are demonic with their other views and perversions). And if you keep going (I'm not sure what direction this is -- right or left) you get to what arguably is truly Christian -- Orthodox and Traditional RC. It is incumbent upon this 'end' of Christianity to speak out and right-course these deviant CZs, in my opinion. But, alas, like everywhere else, the elders here, with minor exception, are too cowardly to speak out.
Here's a good example, from just a few days ago. Bishop Barron conveniently skirts the opportunity to clear up misconceptions -- when Tucker asks him about whether the Gospels changed in any way as a result of Vatican 2 (they did: in order to accommodate the J lobby which had infiltrated the ranks of V2, the scriptures were softened to lessen the role Js played in the killing of JC... and even now include a warning at the beginning of the Gospel of John, where the most direct references can be found). And then later, on the subject of usury, and whether this was a Christian value. Skirted both issues.
Bottom line, and my request for those of us who care and aware: don't refer to them as Christian Zionists. Christianity is incompatible with Zionism, which is a racist, apartheid practice closer to Nazism that it is Christianity. Instead, refer to them as Evangelo-Zionists (or wannabe Jews?).
I'm open to other labels, but that's the best I can come up with. We need to isolate this dangerous and hugely influential segment (in terms of funding and placement in this administration) and point out that there is nothing Christian happening here.
Thank you for your thoughtful comment on a topic about which obviously you have recognized the importance.
The failure of Christianity seems almost total, and it gives me no pleasure to say that. It's my culture, after all. But there is no denying that on the very fundamental level of self-preservation, it has failed to protect us, it has failed to protect the culture it claims, and it has failed to protect even itself. Russian Orthodox. Catholic. Protestant. All have failed, though I have to admit Protestantism seems to have failed most spectacularly of all.
My guess is that all Christianity's shortcomings can be traced to that catastrophic 4th Century theological blunder that attached the Judaic slaughter-god to the Christian message and gave divine authority. It polluted our conception of God. Could any real God have a "chosen people," demand the sacrifice of innocent blood, incinerate cities for the sins of a few, attach to itself human attributes like "jealousy" and "anger?" All the pathology and weaknesses of Christianity seem to flow from that, not to mention the decidedly irreligious conceptions like sacred books, prophecy, miracles, and the rest of the crippling nonsense we inherited from Judaism.
As for Zionism, there is nothing about Zionism that wasn't demanded by the Babylonian scribes 2400 years ago. Zionism is Deuteronomy--word for word. Tragically, Christianity has drunk deep of that poison well.
Judeo-Christianity was created by Constantine the Great, who made the "god" of the Jews the father of Jesus. Since the true Christians considered the Jewish "god" to be evil, under whose rule the entire created world groans, they could not agree with the Jews at the council on the identity of the Father. Constantine wanted to please the Jews, so he made the decision. From then on, they ordered the rewriting of the gospels, which is now a different gospel, a different message about Jesus, and a different spirit in it, not the divine one... And we know the fruits of this religion... For example, the almost complete extermination of the indigenous population of the American continents, the forced conversion in Europe, Asia, Africa. The almost complete extermination of the indigenous population of Australia, the slave trade, colonization, etc., etc., etc. Inquisition, religious and other wars... "Witch" burnings, etc... So the Jews created "Christianity" and then Islam, and they rule the earth through their "god".
Search the Roman Catholic Church website, and the rest of the information will come... I didn't save the links, but everything is there, including who ordered whom to rewrite the original teachings of Jesus, the gospels, how the "apostolic" letters were written, when the Bible was finalized, etc...
There are other sources of information. Anyone who is scolded by the "church" is most likely speaking the truth...
So, when Jesus spoke of "my Father", he wasn't referring to the same god as that of the Pharisees?
I wouldn't be able to find it again, but I recently read some proposal that "yahu" is a desert demon, with some name transference from the Roman pantheon and some other confusions resulting in that demon, renamed, being given continuity throughout the entire set of books through into Christianity.
I don't recall more than that. And I am nowhere near as well versed as you.
I'll just mention one other thing: the Talmudic tradition apparently has it that the Jews gained dominance over god by argument, which was self-reported by the rabbis as pleasing to god -- "my children have bested me". This is accompanied by the rabbis having appropriated for humans or for the Jews the "word precedes the thing" ideas about how god spake the world into being, so that truth becomes infinitely malleable. This is the opposite of classical philosophy, which holds that there is an ideal truth, which description attempts to explain as closely as possible.
Not about the same God, and we don't know what Jesus actually preached, since both Christian teachings and scriptures were falsified. After Jesus, his teachings were lost in the third generation. That's why all sorts of -isms, (teachers) came along who tried to regenerate - or invent - the original teachings... Let's not forget that by the time the woman riding the Beast appeared - courtesy of Constantine the Great -, the Jews had already destroyed and burned all the writings - as was their custom - that could have contained the original teachings of Jesus...
By the way, the Messiah of the Jews will only appear during the battle of Armageddon, according to their scriptures. Now they are preparing to provoke.
One shouldn’t conflate Christians/Christianity in the post-modern period (which I define as from the Enlightenment period of the late 18th century to now) with Christianity as a whole from its beginnings in the 1st century up to the demise of Christendom in the 18th century.
What has replaced Christendom in the post-modern era is difficult to determine: some era of “Secularism”, an ill-defined, complex & diverse culture whose Zeitgeist (to the extent one can disentangle a coherent one from the welter of its intestines) richly & comprehensively undermines the traditional Christian worldview, even as many loosy-goosy Christians would disagree since they find the secular Zeitgeist wonderfully comfortable (which more likely reflects their psychological/cultural subversion by the Zeitgeist rather than the Zeitgeist’s compatibility with Christianity).
One factor distracting people from this epochal process of Christendom falling apart being replaced by an amorphous process of “Secularism” is the coincidental explosion of powerful technology and science in the 19th century—only exponentially accelerating through the 20th century—with its wonderful gadgets & social conveniences and its razzle-dazzle of progress. This was accompanied by an evolution of pop culture through Arts & Entertainment (movies, radio, music, television, now Internet) in synch with the unprecedented diversity of freedom of expression we saw as far back as the late 19th century only increasing fantastically throughout the 20th century—all promiscuously convolved with the new incoherent but hypnotic Zeitgeist allowing & encouraging a bewilderingly diverse cornucopia of thought & feelings free of the constraints of Evil Christian Dogma.
This is the overarching context in which one would be “disappointed” by Christians in our time. Is Christendom responsible for its own demise? That’s a complicated question, which may admit of a Yes and No answer.
Biden allowed Hamas and Hezbollah operatives to enter the country illegally. They have as much hate in their hearts for American Jew-haters like you as they do for Israelis. You might end up meeting one or more of them.
Here's more for you: Rockefeller, Morgan, Carnegie, Nixon, Obama, Mayor Pete, and countless other buttheads in finance and government were all not Jewish. Seems you forgot to incorporate that in you analysis.
Here's a joke that I think you should take to heart: a southern belle in Mississipi, in 1942, decided it would be a good idea to have three young men from the nearby Army base over to her home for Thanksgiving. She called the base, and was put through to the public relations office. She told a lieutenant - she didn't catch his name - that she wanted three young men over to her home for Thanksgiving. Then she says, "Just one thing, Lieutenant - no Jews, please. I will not have any Jews in my home". I want the young men here at 3:00". The Leiutenant says "yes, ma'am", and ends the call.
Thanksgiving Day comes, and at precisely 3:00 the doorbell rings. She opens the door, and three black soldiers are standing there. "There must be some mistake!", she protests. One of the three speaks up and says, "No, ma'am, Lieutenant Goldberg never makes mistakes".
Moral of the story: Jew-haters never know when their hate will come back to bite them in the ass.
Or, you could have been rushed to the hospital by ambulance after being involved in a serious car crash. The Jewish Chief Doctor at the Emergency Room might know about you, and suddenly feels intense back pain, and has to leave for the day. He lets you know that you will be in good hands with the new DEI hired doctors and nurses.
One of the things Jews famously lack is self-awareness and you seem to fit right into that stereotype. I write a post denouncing the immorality of condemning people based on perceived thoughts and feelings--a particularly Judaic kind of poison--and you respond doing exactly that. It's like you people are spiritually crippled.
As ariadna points out above, all the world's religions long ago recognized that virtue is a good for its own sake. Socrates and, later, Confucius and Buddha all understood that principle centuries before Christianity even came into being.
But Judaism, a vicious political program of Jewish Supremacy, is an anti-religion, so to speak. Its adherents are incapable of coming to that simple religious moral truth. Your comment proves it.
The only reason you can come up with not to hate Jews is because someday Jews will take revenge. Pathetic and stunted.
As for Hamas and Hezbollah--these are made-up hate words Jews use to dehumanize the Palestinians. But the Palestinians have every right to hate both of us. It would be irrational if they didn't. My guess is that they hate you more. And you deserve it. Instead of wanting to slaughter them for it, why not repent and spend the rest of your life trying to make amends and end the poisonous impact of your people on our planet? Denounce your satanic god and join the great story of humanity.
Projecting your lack of self-awareness upon the Jews is a very jezeusian trait, how convenient of the crucifixionist to built-in the Jew Factor for all of your failings forever more, shit don't play anymore homie
1948 repudiated and threw under the bus replacement theology for your 35,000 Churchocious crucifixionist atrocity, don't look up 600,000 nuns being abused by priests or the buggery at the monkery, speaking of being godly let's be celibate and not procreate and marry God all while snacking on his son's flesh and blood on the wrong Sabbath while bitching about Jews while praying to a failed Messiah who was a Jew and died a Jew yet goi believe that women washed his dead body after his death life fairy tale...
That's incongruent and impossible under Jewish law yet goytards guzzle it up 🤦
Well, despite your adolescent name-calling, I fully agree with your uncivil screed--the parts that are comprehensible, anyway--as to the Judaic influence on Christianity. Christianity either purges itself of the slaughter-god worship and all the other primitive nonsense it has imbibed from the wilderness bandits, or it goes the way of Judaism: a historical artifact that humanity will look at with the same contemptuous dismissal with which we look at witch-sniffers.
" the wrong Sabbath"
LOL. You are like a 6th-grader avoiding stepping on sidewalk cracks.
Serious question. Does jehovah get pissed if you shoot the kneecaps off an unarmed teenager on the Sabbath?
Frank you didn't address the specific points raised by the author and instead merely called him a "jew-hater". That's rather intellectually lazy, don't you think?
>>"Biden allowed Hamas and Hezbollah operatives to enter the country illegally. They have as much hate in their hearts for American Jew-haters like you as they do for Israelis. You might end up meeting one or more of them."
Both groups are jewish creations so yes I agree they are a threat. Meanwhile, promoting and enabling unchecked mass immigration into sovereign nations is also a core component of the jewish revolutionary spirit, so there's that.
>> "Here's more for you: Rockefeller, Morgan, Carnegie, Nixon, Obama, Mayor Pete, and countless other buttheads in finance and government were all not Jewish."
Au contraire. Lots of Canaanite / Phoenician blood in that group.
>>"Thanksgiving Day comes, and at precisely 3:00 the doorbell rings. She opens the door, and three black soldiers are standing there. "There must be some mistake!", she protests. One of the three speaks up and says, "No, ma'am, Lieutenant Goldberg never makes mistakes"."
Africans were sold into slavery predominantly by jewish slave traders and transported to the new world by jewish slave ships. And, with the exception of Israel, jews are notorious for avoiding military service. You know it's the Gentiles who do the fighting and dying in jewish wars.
>>"Moral of the story: Jew-haters never know when their hate will come back to bite them in the ass."
Projection?
>> "He lets you know that you will be in good hands with the new DEI hired doctors and nurses. "
You're saying those Jews aren't Jews?! But they are! That was just Obama's mother! By the way, DS Jews sometimes use philosemites to achieve their goals... Either they pay them or they're just useful idiots...
THEY SAID IT OPENLY IN 1981!!! We just don't remember it anymore....😉😉😉
Jacques Attali's statement on population reduction:
This was written by Jacques Attali in 1981,(!!!!!) who was then an advisor to François Mitterrand:
"In the future, we must find a way to reduce the population. Let's start with the old, because as soon as they reach 60-65 they consume more than they produce, and this costs society a lot.
Then the weak, then the useless, who are of no use to society, because there will always be more of them, and finally the stupid. Euthanasia must target these groups, euthanasia must in any case be a fundamental tool of our future societies. Of course, we will not be able to execute people or build camps.
We will get rid of them if we make them believe that this is for their own good. Overpopulation is useless and economically too costly. From a social point of view, it is much better if a human machine suddenly stops, as when it gradually deteriorates.
We cannot test millions of people for their intelligence, but we find or create something, an epidemic targeting a certain group of people, a real economic crisis or not, a virus that affects the elderly or the overweight, the weak... They give in to fear and the idiots will believe it and allow themselves to be treated. We convince them that the treatment is there and that this treatment is the solution.
The selection of idiots then takes care of itself: they go to the slaughter. "[The Future of Life - Jacques Attali, 1981] Interviews with Michel Salomon, Les Visages de l'avenir collection, éditions Seghers." ...
Jacques Attali: "Euthanasia" as "one of the most important instruments for the future of societies" - Forum Natural Law and Humanism"
I didn't "vaccinate" and I didn't believe them from the beginning, as I've known about their plans for a long time. Faucci is not a member of the DS, he's just their dog. As are all the others who participated in this "test", genocide!
By the way, the DS will sacrifice Jews at any time if their power so desires! As has already been written, 95% of Jews do not even know who their religion believes in and what it stands for! But this is true for Christians, Hindus, Muslims, and all religions! Unfortunately, they did not start lying for power now, and the Jews were not the first!
Yes, I am aware that the deep state will take out Jews, and everyone else. Covid was a depopulation weapon, and so were the shots. Rockefeller is also in on the depopulation.
Have you seen this clip of Bill Cooper? He knew about 9/11 and was killed by the cops shortly after that. But he said, “It’s not the Jews, it’s not the Catholics, it’s not the blacks….:
I probably would have let your apology for Christianity go, except for this sentence: "Christianity is incompatible with Zionism, which is a racist, apartheid practice closer to Nazism that it is Christianity."
National Socialism recognized and fought back against militant, subversive, parasitic Judaism, the parent ideology that Zionism springs from. Walking that liberating walk, even speaking out against the Jewish takeover of western democracies is still more than can be said for any branch of Christianity.
W/o Judaism, there could be no Zionism, just like there could be no communism. And I'd add, there could be no Christianity either. The idea of choseness is Yahweh's mandate for Jewish supremacy. Christianity has its own non-racial version of supremacy. You can not save your soul, its most important spiritual imperative, unless you become a Christian. No other gods may be recognized and not even heretical Christians will be saved.
I won't deny that NS shares some racist and apartheid practices w/ the Zionists. Both are racial-nationalist ideologies. They are looking to protect their own people because they believe there's something special about them, which is more than can be said for Christianity which turns the other cheek towards its enemy.
But there are also significant differences between NS and Zionism too. Don't you think? I think that might be a fruitful discussion.
Christian that still doesn't understand that Christianity is polytheistic (3 Gods) and therefore idolatrous. InB4 the kvetching about how "You don't understand the Trinity!" Crypto Jews were at the Council of Nicea to make sure Tritaniarinism was chosen over Arianism, because Arianism is not Polythistic and therefor Idolturous according to the Torah. But Tritaniraism is. This is why Jews don't believe in Jesus as God because only God can be God. The son of God can not be God. To worship the Son of God as God is to worship someone who is not God as God, and this is idolatrous. This is why Jews don't convert to Christianity. Jews know Judaism better than Christians do, and they know what can and can not be the Jewish Messiah.
Theophagy 🙊
So goyish
Eating false prophet blood and flesh on the wrong Sabbath 😜🤯😳😆😭😂
Rome is gone the third millennium of Israel is here, the church is dying and getting its ass kicked by Islam wherever it goes
Israel keeps winning wars that Arabs started and there are 24 less Christian countries than there were when the century began
The one true faith
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Backstabbing goyim when not stabbing Jews stab each other and then get stabbed by the Muslims, karmic delight according to the sinful gluttonous envious satanic devilish possessed illogical witch burning hypocritical sanctimonious self-hating goy and his near 40,000 different variations on crucifix worship 🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱
Those who bless Israel will be blessed those who curse Israel will be cursed
May the curse you've embraced continue to clap you upside the head often and forevermore as you worship a false prophet who needs to return a second time to accomplish what was not accomplished the first time 🙃🙄🤦🏿♀️🤷🙊😜🤦💨💩🕳️
You deny that God gave Israel to the Jews 🤦🤔😳🙄😵💫🤦🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱 80 generations of Jews emanate from the land of Israel and 80 more generations will emerge from there as your flailing Faith fails and you turn your other church cheek while lamenting that Jews fight back.😂🤣😜
Nothing says failed Messiah like needing to return a second time to accomplish what wasn't accomplished the first time 🤦
Yes. I also deny that fish swallow men and vomit them back up on the beach three days later still alive, that snakes convince women to eat apples, that burning bushes can talk, that priests blowing horns can make city walls come down, that any real universal god could have a "chosen people," that religious progress has anything to do with committing genocide against innocent children, that the Jewish ritual murder of the Tsar and his family was anything but evil, that corrupting the morals of the gentile youth is part of "god's plan", that anyone can "prophesy" the future, that god has a written word, that god gets upset if you spell his name out without hyphens, that judaism is anything but a poison of which you are the evidence.
If you told us that your jewish asses are made of glass and we need to upholster the whole world to protect them from breaking I would not deny that your asses are made of glass.
I would just laugh at both absurd assertions and I would tell you that I don't care if you are a brain-washed moron or a brazen liar trying to justify with an imbecilic "rationale" a mass murder (an ethnocide) your lot committed while carrying out a grand larceny.
In either case you are not welcome among normal people.
Again you are projecting the systematic Jewish inbreeding leading to 22 major and several minor congenital abnormalities and diseases unique to your tribe onto "Christians" who are not a tribe, not even a single nation, let alone a single ethnic group.
This means that "midwit" would be an overly lenient label in your case, and "non-thinking" would be imprecise. Brain-washed for generations into tribal psychosis is more like it.
You are right. He serves as a useful example for gentiles just starting on their clear-pilling, but no one needs to wade through an ocean of such useful examples to get the point.
To be precise, I cross-stacked your post, along with the comment : "Someone's got to start saying it." To paraphrase Gene Hackman in "A Few Good Men": "They can't handle the truth."
Yep, but I think that was Jack Nicholson. However, I think Gene Hackman would have said it more memorably. :)
I don't think I've ever in my life blocked someone, or deleted an account, or unsubscribed from something because I was "offended." That also goes for severing personal relationships. I think it says something about someone's integrity--intellectual and personal--when they do so.
If someone states an opinion, it is either rational or irrational. If irrational, then I rise to the challenge and try to say why. If rational, then I welcome the chance for enlightenment. Either way, it is a chance to hone and strengthen my own opinions.
"If someone states an opinion, it is either rational or irrational. If irrational, then I rise to the challenge and try to say why. If rational, then I welcome the chance for enlightenment.”
If you try to “say why,“ I.e.,show the fallacy of the irrational opinion, this serves a purpose, not because irrationality can be cured by reason but because in doing so you help many other readers more easily identify insanity/noxious agendas when they come across them. That works fine once, twice, a few times.
But what happens in practical terms if you continue to allow dozens upon dozens of noxious comments of irrational hatred (yes, there is such a thing as rational hatred: it is demonstrably rational to hate the “values” of judaism) that end up invading the comment section like locusts devouring a crop of healthy plants?
Short of deleting them and banning the posters perhaps a solution would be to identify them at the top with an editorial label, like NT (noxious troll) signifying "Reader beware.”
I do support, however, deleting comments that contain mindless vulgar insults.
Just one thing about this great post; in my view only.
You state ""Albright” was a Jew. She was speaking of the 500,000 children Americans killed in Iraq." ..... yes they were killed, but by ONLY the SANCTIIONS AFTER the war, where many hundreds, maybe thousands of children also died, due to shootings, bombings etc.
Just a copy and paste ..... 1996 she said it in, so yep..
"Albright, the first female secretary of state in United States history, made the remarks during a 60 Minutes interview. Correspondent Lesley Stahl discussed with the then-United Nations ambassador how Iraq had been suffering from the sanctions placed on the country following 1991's Gulf War.".
Journalist Jon Schwarz also added to the criticism of the decades-old comments. He said, "Some people remember Madeleine Albright said in 1996 it was 'worth it' for sanctions to kill 500,000 Iraqi children. No one remembers the sanctions were legally supposed to be lifted when Iraq had no WMD, which, of course, it didn't."
Journalist Jon Schwarz also added to the criticism of the decades-old comments. He said, "Some people remember Madeleine Albright said in 1996 it was 'worth it' for sanctions to kill 500,000 Iraqi children. No one remembers the sanctions were legally supposed to be lifted when Iraq had no WMD, which, of course, it didn't."
I don't really understand the point you and Bob Enough Bob are trying to make.
How is the "legality" of the US-imposed blockade on the Iraqi natioin that deprived the Iraqi children from access to vital medicine an attenuating factor in the US causing the death of 500,000 children?
How is that different from the "legality" of Israel doing the same in Gaza? Terrorist, murderous regimes usually commit unspeakable atrocities they wrap in the "legality" of their own making. Everything Israel does is "legal" by the same criterion.
It sounds like you object to the sanctions not being lifted when the lie about WMD was exposed, not to the sanctions being imposed in the first place.
Not at all. The originally term implied to me, that they were killed in the illegal war in Iraq and made no mention of being placed AFTER the illegal warfinished war had finished. Please read my original comment, where it is self-explained - as it was not a criticism per se, but a clarification.
Hope this clarifies and finishes the matter.
PS Regards Israel and Gaza, Lebanon etc... please do not even start me off, as my written response would get me arrested, by the thought police... and yes, I agree with your points on that.
Remember goibush lying to the world and saying that Islam was the religion of peace, typical gentile guile 💩
Remember cokehead goibush Junior who had male prostitutes come to the White House? Gentile guile with hypocritical lack of style 🙃
White man speak with fork tongue everywhere he trampled
Goitards like to remember Jews and ignore all of their toxic own or typically say that they're great great great great great great great great grandfather was Jewish as a slur, Goi'tardery 🤦🏿♀️🤦💨💩🕳️
Yes, but as political programs go, nothing is stronger than Judaism. That's why I say it will take a religious revolution to eradicate the threat to humanity that is Judaism. There is no political argument against enslaving the world. There is a religious argument.
I think the way to do it is to adopt the new chronology. Which has Christianity starting in 1185, and then Judaism being kicked off in the late 15th century as a way of hijacking the existing religion.
But the Rus converted to Christianity with a mass baptism in the river that runs through Kiev and then they destroyed the Khazar Empire, which had already been usurped by the Jews, in 1065
Once paper was invented and became relatively cheap there was a great incentive to invent history. The invented history overwhelmed anything that anyone thought they knew prior.
But at one point inventing history became a hybrid warfare project. The Russian mathematicians who have deciphered this think that after Emperor Andronicus Comnenus (posthumously Jesus Christ) was murdered in 1185 …… In 1204 he was avenged and these Boyar characters who weren’t executed were pissed at having to flee to Rome and perhaps Venice. But since they couldn’t fight militarily to get power back that’s when this full spectrum deep state control techniques began. Inventing history was a big part of that.
Completely useless for historical narrative and competent literary writing. So whenever you see someone writing pretty well that has to be a couple of centuries post paper.
He never accomplished what he was supposed to accomplished according to the Jewish rules which you misappropriate misinterpret and misquote
Theophagy is an elemental facet of your religion, do you do special tricks with Monday morning poop after celebrating the Sabbath on the wrong day and consuming false god blood and flesh?
You are the God eater crucifixionists polluting Humanity with anti-civilizational anti-science anti-humanity anti-progress.
Tell me about Veronica the fictional character created in the 4th century who was reputed to have wiped the brow of JC with a piece of cloth that a 20-story cathedral in France houses, talk about gasping at desperation in a attempt to establish credibility 😂
Yet the Jews are still here in their Homeland repudiating your false Messiah all day everyday forever more as you turn your other cheek and lose lose lose
The reason it's called a crucifixion is if it was real it would be a crucifact 🤔
Here in the South and Southwest portions of the United States, we are overrun with non-native wild hogs. They breed with a ferociousness unmatched by any other species. That have no regard for other species and will attack, killing and eating the young of other native wildlife. When they forage, they destroy much more than they actually eat (entire fields can be destroyed by one small sounder of hogs). When one field is destroyed, the hogs simply move on to other fields and continue the destruction. Efforts to eradicate the problem hogs have shown little effect. The only effective method is to destroy the entire sounder - males, females, and young - all at once. Any that escape will go on to breed and the problem continues.
One could also apply the above paragraph to describe certain ethnic groups.
Your repulsion to the killing of children is a fairly recent cultural belief. Most of recorded history shows men were fine with the killing of the enemy young. Sometimes it's the only way.
Ok, several things, here. First, exactly which ethnic groups are we talking about that are comparable to wild hogs. Jews? Blacks? Germans?
What ethnic group is yours? Guaranteed, someone in the world thinks your children should be exterminated because of the ethnicity you bestowed upon them. Are they wrong? What if they have more power over you as the Jews did over the gentiles in Russia? On what ground can you object when your children are shot in front of you?
(I'll note in passing that every war criminal compares his victims to animals.)
Appeals to historical precedent carry no moral weight. We don't throw virgins into volcanos to make the corn grow despite its historical pedigree.
The Native Americans typically exterminated vanquished tribes down to the last baby. In the Declaration of Independence, IIRC, the founders condemned the practice of the "savages" to slaughter irrespective of sex or age. So the revulsion I express at our activities in Palestine isn't THAT recent.
It might be an indication of our untethered phony Western morality that we condone the slaughter of children even though there is no benefit to us (except it will make Jesus come back). So even your utilitarian justification of evil fails.
First. there are several ethnic groups where outspoken members have already openly stated that my ethnic group is evil, morally bankrupt, the scourge of the world, and should be eliminated to the very last man, woman, and child. BTW, I'm White. So your attempt to turn the argument around doesn't exactly work. I already live with the knowledge that there are jews, blacks, muslims (not necessarily an ethnic group) that would kill me and my family without hesitation. Thankfully we have the 2A in this country that at the very least gives us the option of fighting back.
Also, I'm not condoning the killing of innocent people. I'm just stating that pragmatically, it can be a solution. I don't think I could carry out the murder and/or genocide of innocent people. However, there are plenty of people that can do just that, so yes your core belief is a fairly recent cultural belief that derives from the Christian belief that all souls are equal before God. Not everyone shares that belief.
Finally, I really don't care what two different tribes do to each other halfway across the world. I'd be happy if a) we weren't involved in any manner, b) none of our people are sent to fight and die in that encounter, and c) we provide zero financial support to either side.
Like it or not, the blood of the Palestinians is on the hands of the Christian West from Lord Balfour and Woodrow Wilson to each and every one of us who hasn't raised a voice against the war crimes taking place today.
Anyone who worships a God who gives somebody else's land away is worshiping an alien and evil false God. The Palestinians are innocent victims, just as the Russians were, just as the Germans were. We should be deeply ashamed of our willingness to be used for evil purposes. We can't just opt out.
Christians have to come to the conclusion that Judeo-Christianity is not Christianity. The institution of Judeo-Christianity is no different than the institution of Judaism. Jesus knew YAHWEH is Satan.
The Holohoax saved them because up until then the demonic parasites couldn't co-exist with humans and now they own every important institution in the social engineering of Americans and likely humans in general.
Judaism seems to be a huckster cult, where the main goal of their god is to advance their tribe’s fortunes - mostly and even at the costs of non-jews. The Talmud is basically a glorified rules of thumb - heuristics if you will - for tribal profit - literally. i have not seen one moral statement of value on their books - it all seems fake, fraudulent and if it were for the fact that judaism is thus responsible for millions of deaths over the past 100 years i would leave them alone
Thanks, The article below provides a pretty good history on the origins of Christian Zionism, who created it and who funded it and for what purpose. Perloff also compares the Scofield bible with the King James which is informative.
The War on Christianity, Part II: The Abomination and Blasphemy of Christian Zionism
I do wonder what the bible would look like if Jesus showed up among a different Tribe in another part of the earth- would the new religious text that resulted incorporate the fundamental beliefs of that tribe? We interpret things based on our own history, customs, understandings, and beliefs when something we have never experienced occurs - we seek to make sense of it with the tools we have. Just a thought.
Thank you for linking to that very thorough (and very long) article. A lot of important information in there.
I wish there were a summer camp somewhere that gave rising seniors in any of the evangelical Christian colleges and seminaries in the country an all-expenses-paid two week retreat in which this article and a few other texts were carefully studied.
A deprograming camp for followers of the cult of Zion.
On another note, Have you ever read the Red Symphony by Landowsky (1968)?
It provides a rare insight into the techniques of global enslavement, the staging of wars, and those behind the curtain of the World Revolutionary Movement. It is a transcript of the questioning of the accused C.G. Rakovsky (former Ambassador in France, an operative of the international bankers and one of the founders of Soviet Bolshevism) by G.G Kus'min (NKVD) on 1/26/1938. Rakovsky, believing he was to die soon and was obviously assigned the task by "THEM" to educate Stalin as to the folks organizing and funding the revolution, who were in charge and their ultimate goal.
After studying this document, the hands behind "history" became clearer. It is the same playbook, nothing is spontaneous or random.
Billy Thistle and I discussed that book about a year ago. I remember something vaguely from it having to do with the pleasure the Bolsheviks took in witnessing a betrayal of a gentile ally. The bigger the betrayal, the larger the crowd gathered to watch.
But to be clear, you are saying this is the actual transcript from the actual interview and not a dramatization?
This is the actual transcript ch 40 in Red Symphony - I don't know if the other chapters were ever translated. This was put out as a small book. It is probably one of the most eye-opening book I have read. It is also on Audible, hard to believe. There are many surprises in there. I knew the 1929 crash was planned but I always assumed it was so the ownership of the most profitable companies could be purchased on the cheap - no the purpose was far more darker. I knew FDR prolonged the depression - but it looks like he was either one of THEM or blackmailed (like Wilson was). There is an Interesting part about freemasonry and how it fits into the revolution and the secret they never disclose to the members. Also interesting discussion on where Marxism came from and what Marx did not disclose. Trotsky was chosen by THEM - but Lenin then Stalin came in and the international revolution focused on a more local one - which pissed THEM off - they tried to overthrow Stalin and put Trotsky in, but that failed (that is what the show trials were about). The goal was to take out all of Europe. Since that did not work out they funded Hitler and created the conditions which would force him to rescue the Germans that were being tortured or killed in Poland. Rakovsky's goal was to inform Stalin via this interrogation that he should enter a pact with Hitler for Poland - he assures him that the European countries would not attack the Russia and funding would be forthcoming. Everything played out according to the plans. Hitler had no idea who was funding him as explained by Rakovsky. Once Hitler broke away from the international bankers - he signed his death warrant.
Example
On the Mythical power of money and “THEIR” ambition of Absolute Power: Rakovsky explains: “They had acquired for themselves the real privilege of coining money… “Imagine.. a small number of people, having unlimited power through the possession of real wealth, and you will see that they are the absolute dictators of the stock-exchange; and as a result of this also the dictators of production and distribution and also of work and consumption. If you have enough imagination then multiply this, by the global factor and you will see its anarchical, moral and social influence, i.e. a revolutionary one. The Capitalistic system of production is determined by finance. These people control moneys in unlimited amounts, insofar as they themselves create them. Why should not these people, the bankers, have the impulse towards power, towards full power? … Such power as Stalin has in the USSR, but world-wide. …. Absolute power has a purpose in itself, otherwise it is not absolute. And until the present day there has not yet been invented another machine of total power except the Communist State… Those who already partially rule over nations and worldly governments have pretensions to absolute domination? Understand that that is the only thing which they have not yet reached.”
THEIR plan has not changed - they are just using different tools to achieve it.
Taking up space to repeat the same demented inanities full of judaic hatred again and again in the comment section of this blog is the metaphoric equivalent of the murderous settlers occupying stolen land where they don't belong,
They likely ripped off from other Levantine religions and called it their own; other than elevating a former Canaanite God of Metallurgy into a deus primus.
Call it “anti-Semitism”, call it the “ultimate blasphemy” for all I care, I bet the Sumerians, Babylonians, Canaanites, Akkadians, Egyptians clearly did not appreciate that an ancient thieving roving culture such as themselves with no original ideas in their bones nicked off their mythologies only for them to turn around and have the utter cheek to call other deities “false gods” and demanded their highly-bastardised mythos to be worshipped!
Was the first appearance of Christianity and the overturning of the old world a Bolshevik Revolution in its own right (by the same tricksters)? Sure seems like it had all the traits.
The bottom line here is, are you a true follower of Christ and His teachings? Set aside religions which are man-made constructs and infiltrated by evil. There is no middle ground when innocent human life is concerned. If one stands with Jesus Christ, one follows His teaching to love thy neighbor as yourself. We can clearly see that what is going on in this fallen world is contrary to loving thy neighbor, and should therefore be rejected.
Well, Jesus goes even further. He said "Love your enemies." I think that's a problem, because it leaves nothing to hate. Hate, itself, becomes the sin, and, truly, most Christians believe exactly that. But hate is just an emotion like any other emotion and it's there for a reason.
Suppose there is a man who has terrified his wife into submission and he is raping their daughter. She may need to rely on hate to give herself the motive power to take the steps necessary to ensure he can't harm their daughter again. If she acquiesces in the abuse because she believes it is a sin to hate, then that belief becomes the sin, so to speak.
Emotions are only ever rational or irrational. If I hate you because you are raping my daughter or destroying my people, that is rational hate. If I hate you because you were born in Mexico, that is irrational hate.
After the religious evolution, humans will understand that there is no such thing as an evil emotion, or a virtuous one. Hate isn't always bad. Conversely, love isn't always good.
I also believe religious truth is independent of notions like "true follower of Christ" and "standing with Jesus." And I believe Jesus would agree.
I don't think that the wife needs to rely on hate to leave her husband, she needs to rely on common sense, cause and effect. If I leave him, he can't hurt us anymore, not hate. She can hate the sin while removing herself from the situation. Jesus told us that we must learn to forgive or we will not be forgiven. As hard as that is, it makes sense. We do not beat the devil by hate, that is his game. We defeat the devil by following Jesus and trusting that He knows what He is talking about. It is a hard lesson, but we need to fully understand how the enemy works. He works through negative emotions like hate, jealousy, corruption, etc. and Jesus is the opposite, He works through love, grace, and forgiveness. That is what I mean by being a true follower of Christ, it is not easy, but it is the only way to defeat the enemy.
Why should she leave her abusing husband if, according to your interpretation, she should just "learn to forgive"? She should hate her bruises and broken bones but not the "sinner" who caused them?
Your question implies that you think that hate is a means to an end one can deliberately choose or reject to "accomplish": something., instead of a natural emotion, a first defensive response to harm done by a hostile offender. Part and parcel of the survival instinct.
As Craig explains, the SPCL's 'fight hate" is an attempt to suppress this natural defense mechanism, and the "hate" they want to suppress is very selective, as we all know. How does your "forgive your sinner and just remove ourself from the situation" advice work out in the case of Irrational judaic hatred against the non-Jews ("Amaleks"). For the most part the ever-forgiving Christians have turned the other cheek and accepted to 'remove" themselves from control of all levers of power of their own nations and gradually from their culture and traditions.
Jesus' teachings are the highest moral tenets any religion has come up (peaceful, universally compassionate, just and tolerant) but, unlike, for example, the peaceful but solipsistic religions of the far east, ENGAGED. He doesn't advocate watching your navel, and meditating, striving for perfection to achieve nirvana. He advocates being the good samaritan.
On the other hand, Jesus has given his followers an ideal to strive for. toward which they are to strive asymptotically (like parallel lines that can never meet because the human cannot touch the divine, except for the martyrs and saints).
It is a utopia and must be seen as such. An ideal against which to measure your life and aspire to better yourself, not a literal Users' Manual, the way the Talmud is for the Jews ("kill and rob with impunity because you are "chosen") .
In his real world, "sinners" may "smite" you and you should turn the other cheek. They may even crucify the most inconvenient of you to their hold on power, and you must ask God to forgive them for they know not what they are doing.
In our world, they know what they are doing and they don't just 'smite' you, they plan to genocide entire nations (see Palestine) and destroy your families, religion, culture and traditions in their quest for supremacy..
Where will you "remove" yourselves to, having forgiven the sinner?
The good Samaritan didn't hate, Jesus didn't hate and neither should we. We will not remove ourselves, we will most likely be martyred or imprisoned just like those in Gaza. Hate never wins, it is always losing even when it gives the illusion of winning. What it comes down to is that it is all based on perspective. Jesus died on the cross, but He still won. Negative energy feeds the darkness, we need to stop feeding it.
In other words, if you fall into hate and revenge, then you are no different than those you are hating.
He may abuse her, intimidate her, psychologically manipulate her into thinking she deserves the abuse. He may threaten her with killing her and their daughter if she leaves or goes to the authorities. She may be paralyzed with terror. But if he is raping their daughter, hate could be useful and it would certainly be rational.
Instead she successfully refuses to hate him because Jesus told her not to and the father destroys his daughter and the mother cries out to Jesus, How could this have happened? I have piously refused to hate, and yet evil triumphed. My daughter is destroyed.
Jesus will say to her, you stupid woman. You had all that god-given hate you could have used, and you consciously refused to use it. You sacrificed your own daughter for the benefit of your own piety. You are guilty of the destruction, too.
What is hating him going to do for her? She can either remain with him or leave. If she is afraid to leave him, how is hating him going to solve the problem?
"God-given hate"? We are not born hating, we are taught to hate. If you think that Jesus would call her stupid for not hating her husband, you are wrong. What does hate accomplish? murder? revenge? Does Jesus support those things? No He does not.
>> He works through love, grace, and forgiveness. That is what I mean by being a true follower of Christ, it is not easy, but it is the only way to defeat the enemy.
If I need forgiveness, it is because I've wronged someone, right? If I want to be forgiven, the way to do that is to go to that person and seek forgiveness. At that point, it is up to that person to forgive. Or not.
Jesus has no say in the matter, and, it seems to me, that by claiming he does and then asking Jesus for forgiveness for a wrong I did to someone else just cuts out all the tough stuff.
Right. We don't have the right to be running around forgiving people who haven't asked for it. For one thing, they might not feel they've done you wrong. And in fact, maybe they haven't. Maybe you are the one in the wrong and you just forgive your victims as a clever way of blaming them unjustly. Damn right you better not forgive me for something without my permission.
And what is this “burden?” Are you saying that if someone has wronged you, the wrong continues until you pretend it never happened?
So if someone wrongs you whether they agree or not that they did, you are not allowed to forgive them? If someone steals from you, and you know they did but they deny it, you should never forgive them and free yourself? Should you instead carry that anger and seek revenge?
Forgiveness is not pretending it never happened, it is an act of letting it go. It is saying that you will not hold it against them anymore. The burden is what you hold inside (anger, fear, resentment) that eats you up.
That Judaism is poisonous can be proven by the fact that the followers of any religion I can think of can be virtuous, humane, just, and peaceful people IF they follow the basic credo and moral tenets of their respective religions, EXCEPT for Jews.
Judaism teaches and urges its tribal followers to be callous, cruel, greedy and murderous supremacists.
Other religions teach people that virtue/honor is its own reward (the Jews scoff: "What's the percentage in that?"), that there is something greater than any and all of us, a loving God, that there is spiritual life after death.
Jews are sure there is nothing greater than their tribe, that their god, a suspiciously close reproduction of their own image, is petty, cruel and vengeful so they need to observe the laws explained by the rabbis. There is only 'now' and the only measure of worth is the quantity of loot accumulated by hook or by crook.
Poisonous indeed.
Jesus never did
the following:
Ezekiel 37:21. Bring the Jewish people back to Israel
Ezekiel 37:22 one nation with a king
Ezekiel 37:24 Jewish people will all do the teachings of G-d.
Isaiah 11:9-10 world wide knowledge of G-d.
Ezekiel 37 & 47 building of the third Temple which will stand forever.
Isaiah 2:4 No More war
Deuteronomy 17:8-11 Jesus did not fullfil the Law. He was never recognized as a prophet or Messiah.
I fail to see how your comment is any kind of refutation of my comment, unless you were. confused by indentation, and yours was meant as a stand alone comment.
The fact that you later on contemptuously keep calling the Christians "crucifixionists," makes me wonder what you would call the devout judaics.
Vampiric pedophiles? Blood-thirsty parasites? Mass murdering robbers? Metastasis of a sinister Bronze Age atavism? Hard to choose. Help me.
You’re correct. Jesus didn’t do any of these things. What he did was bring forth the New Cover covenant.
Through His sacrificial death on the cross, Jesus established a new covenant between God and humanity, in which His blood serves as the ultimate atonement for sin and brings about forgiveness and reconciliation with God.
In the Old Testament, God established covenants with various individuals and groups, such as with Noah after the flood, with Abraham and his descendants, and with the people of Israel through Moses and the giving of the Law. These covenants were agreements in which God promised blessings and protection in exchange for obedience and faithfulness from His people.
That’s the truth and beauty of true Christianity. God’s love is available to us all. He doesn’t (and never has) played favorites.
The most influential early Christians (including Christ himself) were Jews. But some were unwilling to accept the new terms and Covenant and wanted to go on believing that God plays favorites. He doesn’t ✝️🙏🏻✝️
Being a crucifixionist indicates your desire for ritual and fluffy, that's not required, when you mentioned noahide that's the origin of the noahide laws that allow you to be close to the one true God without all the irrational contradictory paradoxes and parables
Being that this article was about hating Jews reflecting Christian teachings and beliefs the problem is you folks, Jews don't buy it Jews don't trust you Jews know the guile of the gentile
Duly noted that Jews don't proselytize like used car salesman, with the edgy Christian hate Factor
Luke 14:26
"If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters-yes, even their own life-such a person cannot be my disciple.
Matthew 10:34-35
34. Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.
35. For I have come to turn a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law
I think he is recognized by some rabbis as the Josephic messiah, the metaphorical lesser twin of the Davidic messiah, the still-awaited Moshiach. Adam Green alerted me to this. It's spelled out in great detail by a couple of different authors. And what about the Jews for Jesus/Messianic Jews? They see him as a prophet.
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Rabbi Tovia Singer has insight for those who seek truth and refutes the j4j sillies constantly, eloquently and ongoingly with eloquence and unsurpassed Jewish grace.
The comment sections under his videos include Muslims argumentative crucifixionists and Noah hides who are satisfied at finding out how much the church misled them through its obfuscations paradoxes and parables all while snacking on Jesus meat and blood (theophagy 🙊) on the wrong Sabbath and exercising the goatscape option against the Jews whenever possible to make up for the failings and flailings of the 35,000 churches
If you believed what you just spewed you'd have given names, crucifixionists lie and say that famous rabbis wrote notes that were found but that's been repudiated in the same way that JC being the Jewish Messiah was
Islam fits the bill better than Judaism as a religious culture where if the follower dutifully follows it, the results are pernicious. There are also problems with Judaism, but they are subtler and more complex than Islam.
Do please tell us what the "subtler" problems of judaism are. I only know of the gross, stridently unsubtle ones like those in Deuteronomy for example.
I don’t consider Israelite stuff to be “Judaism” per se — mostly the religious culture of the Pharisees of the 1st century as it continued to evolve through the Middle Ages into Modernity then Post-Modernity. One subtle problem is an odd penchant for sexual perversions leading to their normalization; another is a tendency toward agnostic/atheist existentialism — both of these amplified and weaponized against their millennial object of hatred: Christianity.
You say: "I don’t consider Israelite stuff to be “Judaism” per se — mostly the religious culture of the Pharisees of the 1st century as it continued to evolve through the Middle Ages into Modernity then Post-Modernity.”
Phew! What a relief! Thank Yahweh that you clarified this.
The “Israelite stuff” — subtle things like the jews’ ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians that matured into a full-blown ongoing genocide, the mass killings of Lebanese, Syrians, Yemenites, and, by proxy, Iraquis, were the work of the bad “Pharisees," nothing to do with “Judaism per se.”
I imagine the good Jews who observe “Judaism per se” know this. If not you must redirect your education efforts to them, helping them to liberate themselves from the Pharisee yoke that has so besmirched the noble judaism.
You also say:
"One subtle problem is an odd penchant for sexual perversions leading to their normalization; another is a tendency toward agnostic/atheist existentialism — both of these amplified and weaponized against their millennial object of hatred: Christianity.”
The "odd penchant for sexual perversions leading to their normalization” --like incest, proxenetism, pedophilia, necrophilia — are not “odd penchants” but practices described in the Torah, not as abominations, but as instances of clever Judaic strategy (examples available upon request).
This makes me wonder if them nasty Pharisees got into the Torah early on and corrupted the noble judaism beyond repair, and if so, can judaism be rehabilitated and saved for the sake of humanity?
I take it that Christianity seen as the Jews’ “millennial object of hatred” is also the work of the Pharisees, as is their burning hatred of all non-Jews — the “Amaleks”— explicitly stated in the Torah before the advent of Christianity.
How the Pharisees managed to turn the Jews’ sincere and abiding love for Christians and all humanity into blood-thirsty hatred remains a mystery, at least to me.
PS. Is "hesperado" a typo? You mistyped "desperado"?
Wham. That sound you heard was the sound of the ball flying over the center field wall and still climbing
“Israelite” is not the same thing as “Israeli”
About sexual perversions in the Torah—I think you meant Talmud?
I'm not sure I would characterize a "noble judaism". And when you wrote "Pharisees managed to turn the Jews’ sincere and abiding love for Christians and all humanity into blood-thirsty hatred" I'm not sure which Jews you are talking about. The New Testament certainly shows mostly nameless crowds of what we assume are ordinary Jewish people (who seem to be inordinately suffering from poverty and diseases) admiring and sort of following Jesus, with a few Jews named more specifically among them (besides of course the disciples); but not all ordinary Jews liked Jesus; there's one example in one of the Gospels where a village of ordinary Jews try to lynch him and he has to escape.
I’d say the good religion of ancient Israel — in fidelity to the true God and His revelations to certain individuals — was always hanging on by a thread and routinely betrayed God and had to be shamed by individual prophets who would rise up periodically. By the time the centuries before Christ approached 0 A.D., the corruption had become institutionalized and normalized, and this is the Judaism which Jesus confronted and condemned. For this, the Jewish leadership (and probably the majority of ordinary Jews following them) wanted him killed. From the 1st century to now, I think it’s been approximately the same Jewish culture, going through many changes but always harboring the same enmity against Christianity. The only difference perhaps with post-modern Jews (from the 19th century to now) is that Jews mostly pretend they don’t hate Christianity.
My name “Hesperado” is from my former blog which I maintained for 11 years, from 2006 to early 2018. An early posting there explained my name:
https://hesperado.blogspot.com/2006/06/reverberations-in-name.html
Then, 10 years after that, I described my nervous breakdown that made me a “desperado”—
https://hesperado.blogspot.com/2016/01/the-desperado.html
You say: “Israelite” is not the same thing as “Israeli”
No problem. Let's just call them both “Jews."
You claim:
"About sexual perversions in the Torah—I think you meant Talmud?”
The Talmud is rich in examples, starting with the admissibility of intercourse with 3-yr-old girls, among others. But no, I meant the Torah. Even wikipedia could have enlightened you:
"The Hebrew Bible sets out several lists of sexual relations .. which are forbidden. Two lists appear in the Book of Leviticus and one list appears in the Book of Deuteronomy. One of the most notable features of each list is that sexual relations between a man and his own daughter are not explicitly forbidden...As with the case of a man's own daughter, the shortness of the list in Leviticus 20, and especially of that in Deuteronomy, are explained by classical Jewish scholarship as being due to the obviousness of the missing prohibitions.…
Other biblical scholars have instead proposed that forbidding incest with a daughter was originally in the list, but was then accidentally left out from the copy on which modern versions of the text ultimately depend, due to a mistake by the scribe…”
[I can see that the likes of Dershowitz are standing on the shoulders of giants.]
Unfortunately excluded from the Torah because he came too late, Herod the Great, who was the King of Judea during the Roman Empire, is said to have preserved the body of his deceased wife in honey for seven years. He loved her too much to let go. Apparently honey has amazing, but not unlimited, embalming properties: after 7 years sexual intercourse with her became difficult. Unique Jewish (Israelite, if you prefer) imagination, even when projected on others…. The dead still have their uses, like making lamp shades out of their skin.
You say " I'm not sure I would characterize a "noble judaism”.
Nor would you detect sarcasm, no matter how obvious.
Your statement that: "Jews (from the 19th century to now) ...mostly pretend they don’t hate Christianity" makes me wonder why, with so much practice, they fail so spectacularly to pretend plausiblhy?
So you came up with your handle, Hesperado, after having a 'nervous breakdown,' whereupon you saw yourself as
"a courageous supporter and champion of the modern West, whose writer recently—almost too late—became conscious of another culture representing not only regression, stagnation and savagery, but also an inveterate enmity against the West, from at least as early as the 7th century A.D. to the present: Islam.”
Would another nervous breakdown help, I wonder?
Portnoy--the portrait of an unhinged Jew;
https://x.com/CollinRugg/status/1930339026114097499?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1930339026114097499%7Ctwgr%5Ec868ba3b2a8c3df73318219e39e24eca3f2b5524%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fdailystormer.in%2Fdave-portnoy-is-literally-every-jew%2F
Is it fair to say that Judaism has as great a range of views as Christianity? I suspect so. Many Jews, included a segment in Israel I am told, are fervently anti-Zionist (although the majority of Israelis, acc'g to Haaretz polls, are apparently as bad as we fear, wrt to genociding the Palestinians).
As a practicing Christian (Roman Catholic) I can assure you that, among Christians, there is no widespread defense of what the Zionists are doing to their neighbors who have lived there for at least 1300 years -- far more than the interlopers who showed up in the last 80 or so year, claiming a deed from God. The Zionist faction of so-called Christianity is a terrifying group, with their junk theology and Schofield bible. They're wanna-be Jews IMO (I occasionally ask, why don't you just convert? A: because they don't want you. You don't have the right DNA, and this 'religion' is really just a bloodline which conveniently invokes the OT when it serves their purpose).
When you take out the CZs, you have other types of Protestants (the more liberal seem to be more sympathetic to Palestinians, but they are demonic with their other views and perversions). And if you keep going (I'm not sure what direction this is -- right or left) you get to what arguably is truly Christian -- Orthodox and Traditional RC. It is incumbent upon this 'end' of Christianity to speak out and right-course these deviant CZs, in my opinion. But, alas, like everywhere else, the elders here, with minor exception, are too cowardly to speak out.
Here's a good example, from just a few days ago. Bishop Barron conveniently skirts the opportunity to clear up misconceptions -- when Tucker asks him about whether the Gospels changed in any way as a result of Vatican 2 (they did: in order to accommodate the J lobby which had infiltrated the ranks of V2, the scriptures were softened to lessen the role Js played in the killing of JC... and even now include a warning at the beginning of the Gospel of John, where the most direct references can be found). And then later, on the subject of usury, and whether this was a Christian value. Skirted both issues.
https://tuckercarlson.com/tucker-show-bishop-barron
Bottom line, and my request for those of us who care and aware: don't refer to them as Christian Zionists. Christianity is incompatible with Zionism, which is a racist, apartheid practice closer to Nazism that it is Christianity. Instead, refer to them as Evangelo-Zionists (or wannabe Jews?).
I'm open to other labels, but that's the best I can come up with. We need to isolate this dangerous and hugely influential segment (in terms of funding and placement in this administration) and point out that there is nothing Christian happening here.
Thank you for your thoughtful comment on a topic about which obviously you have recognized the importance.
The failure of Christianity seems almost total, and it gives me no pleasure to say that. It's my culture, after all. But there is no denying that on the very fundamental level of self-preservation, it has failed to protect us, it has failed to protect the culture it claims, and it has failed to protect even itself. Russian Orthodox. Catholic. Protestant. All have failed, though I have to admit Protestantism seems to have failed most spectacularly of all.
My guess is that all Christianity's shortcomings can be traced to that catastrophic 4th Century theological blunder that attached the Judaic slaughter-god to the Christian message and gave divine authority. It polluted our conception of God. Could any real God have a "chosen people," demand the sacrifice of innocent blood, incinerate cities for the sins of a few, attach to itself human attributes like "jealousy" and "anger?" All the pathology and weaknesses of Christianity seem to flow from that, not to mention the decidedly irreligious conceptions like sacred books, prophecy, miracles, and the rest of the crippling nonsense we inherited from Judaism.
As for Zionism, there is nothing about Zionism that wasn't demanded by the Babylonian scribes 2400 years ago. Zionism is Deuteronomy--word for word. Tragically, Christianity has drunk deep of that poison well.
Judeo-Christianity was created by Constantine the Great, who made the "god" of the Jews the father of Jesus. Since the true Christians considered the Jewish "god" to be evil, under whose rule the entire created world groans, they could not agree with the Jews at the council on the identity of the Father. Constantine wanted to please the Jews, so he made the decision. From then on, they ordered the rewriting of the gospels, which is now a different gospel, a different message about Jesus, and a different spirit in it, not the divine one... And we know the fruits of this religion... For example, the almost complete extermination of the indigenous population of the American continents, the forced conversion in Europe, Asia, Africa. The almost complete extermination of the indigenous population of Australia, the slave trade, colonization, etc., etc., etc. Inquisition, religious and other wars... "Witch" burnings, etc... So the Jews created "Christianity" and then Islam, and they rule the earth through their "god".
This line of thinking has great worth.
This is the first I’m hearing this (and interestingly, I recently attended a lecture on Constantine). What is your source, or sources, for this?
Search the Roman Catholic Church website, and the rest of the information will come... I didn't save the links, but everything is there, including who ordered whom to rewrite the original teachings of Jesus, the gospels, how the "apostolic" letters were written, when the Bible was finalized, etc...
There are other sources of information. Anyone who is scolded by the "church" is most likely speaking the truth...
So, when Jesus spoke of "my Father", he wasn't referring to the same god as that of the Pharisees?
I wouldn't be able to find it again, but I recently read some proposal that "yahu" is a desert demon, with some name transference from the Roman pantheon and some other confusions resulting in that demon, renamed, being given continuity throughout the entire set of books through into Christianity.
I don't recall more than that. And I am nowhere near as well versed as you.
I'll just mention one other thing: the Talmudic tradition apparently has it that the Jews gained dominance over god by argument, which was self-reported by the rabbis as pleasing to god -- "my children have bested me". This is accompanied by the rabbis having appropriated for humans or for the Jews the "word precedes the thing" ideas about how god spake the world into being, so that truth becomes infinitely malleable. This is the opposite of classical philosophy, which holds that there is an ideal truth, which description attempts to explain as closely as possible.
Not about the same God, and we don't know what Jesus actually preached, since both Christian teachings and scriptures were falsified. After Jesus, his teachings were lost in the third generation. That's why all sorts of -isms, (teachers) came along who tried to regenerate - or invent - the original teachings... Let's not forget that by the time the woman riding the Beast appeared - courtesy of Constantine the Great -, the Jews had already destroyed and burned all the writings - as was their custom - that could have contained the original teachings of Jesus...
By the way, the Messiah of the Jews will only appear during the battle of Armageddon, according to their scriptures. Now they are preparing to provoke.
Yahwe is truly a desert demon.
One shouldn’t conflate Christians/Christianity in the post-modern period (which I define as from the Enlightenment period of the late 18th century to now) with Christianity as a whole from its beginnings in the 1st century up to the demise of Christendom in the 18th century.
What has replaced Christendom in the post-modern era is difficult to determine: some era of “Secularism”, an ill-defined, complex & diverse culture whose Zeitgeist (to the extent one can disentangle a coherent one from the welter of its intestines) richly & comprehensively undermines the traditional Christian worldview, even as many loosy-goosy Christians would disagree since they find the secular Zeitgeist wonderfully comfortable (which more likely reflects their psychological/cultural subversion by the Zeitgeist rather than the Zeitgeist’s compatibility with Christianity).
One factor distracting people from this epochal process of Christendom falling apart being replaced by an amorphous process of “Secularism” is the coincidental explosion of powerful technology and science in the 19th century—only exponentially accelerating through the 20th century—with its wonderful gadgets & social conveniences and its razzle-dazzle of progress. This was accompanied by an evolution of pop culture through Arts & Entertainment (movies, radio, music, television, now Internet) in synch with the unprecedented diversity of freedom of expression we saw as far back as the late 19th century only increasing fantastically throughout the 20th century—all promiscuously convolved with the new incoherent but hypnotic Zeitgeist allowing & encouraging a bewilderingly diverse cornucopia of thought & feelings free of the constraints of Evil Christian Dogma.
This is the overarching context in which one would be “disappointed” by Christians in our time. Is Christendom responsible for its own demise? That’s a complicated question, which may admit of a Yes and No answer.
Biden allowed Hamas and Hezbollah operatives to enter the country illegally. They have as much hate in their hearts for American Jew-haters like you as they do for Israelis. You might end up meeting one or more of them.
Here's more for you: Rockefeller, Morgan, Carnegie, Nixon, Obama, Mayor Pete, and countless other buttheads in finance and government were all not Jewish. Seems you forgot to incorporate that in you analysis.
Here's a joke that I think you should take to heart: a southern belle in Mississipi, in 1942, decided it would be a good idea to have three young men from the nearby Army base over to her home for Thanksgiving. She called the base, and was put through to the public relations office. She told a lieutenant - she didn't catch his name - that she wanted three young men over to her home for Thanksgiving. Then she says, "Just one thing, Lieutenant - no Jews, please. I will not have any Jews in my home". I want the young men here at 3:00". The Leiutenant says "yes, ma'am", and ends the call.
Thanksgiving Day comes, and at precisely 3:00 the doorbell rings. She opens the door, and three black soldiers are standing there. "There must be some mistake!", she protests. One of the three speaks up and says, "No, ma'am, Lieutenant Goldberg never makes mistakes".
Moral of the story: Jew-haters never know when their hate will come back to bite them in the ass.
Or, you could have been rushed to the hospital by ambulance after being involved in a serious car crash. The Jewish Chief Doctor at the Emergency Room might know about you, and suddenly feels intense back pain, and has to leave for the day. He lets you know that you will be in good hands with the new DEI hired doctors and nurses.
One of the things Jews famously lack is self-awareness and you seem to fit right into that stereotype. I write a post denouncing the immorality of condemning people based on perceived thoughts and feelings--a particularly Judaic kind of poison--and you respond doing exactly that. It's like you people are spiritually crippled.
As ariadna points out above, all the world's religions long ago recognized that virtue is a good for its own sake. Socrates and, later, Confucius and Buddha all understood that principle centuries before Christianity even came into being.
But Judaism, a vicious political program of Jewish Supremacy, is an anti-religion, so to speak. Its adherents are incapable of coming to that simple religious moral truth. Your comment proves it.
The only reason you can come up with not to hate Jews is because someday Jews will take revenge. Pathetic and stunted.
As for Hamas and Hezbollah--these are made-up hate words Jews use to dehumanize the Palestinians. But the Palestinians have every right to hate both of us. It would be irrational if they didn't. My guess is that they hate you more. And you deserve it. Instead of wanting to slaughter them for it, why not repent and spend the rest of your life trying to make amends and end the poisonous impact of your people on our planet? Denounce your satanic god and join the great story of humanity.
Read Dostoevsky, for Christ's sake.
Tldr
Goi'tardery
Projecting your lack of self-awareness upon the Jews is a very jezeusian trait, how convenient of the crucifixionist to built-in the Jew Factor for all of your failings forever more, shit don't play anymore homie
1948 repudiated and threw under the bus replacement theology for your 35,000 Churchocious crucifixionist atrocity, don't look up 600,000 nuns being abused by priests or the buggery at the monkery, speaking of being godly let's be celibate and not procreate and marry God all while snacking on his son's flesh and blood on the wrong Sabbath while bitching about Jews while praying to a failed Messiah who was a Jew and died a Jew yet goi believe that women washed his dead body after his death life fairy tale...
That's incongruent and impossible under Jewish law yet goytards guzzle it up 🤦
Well, despite your adolescent name-calling, I fully agree with your uncivil screed--the parts that are comprehensible, anyway--as to the Judaic influence on Christianity. Christianity either purges itself of the slaughter-god worship and all the other primitive nonsense it has imbibed from the wilderness bandits, or it goes the way of Judaism: a historical artifact that humanity will look at with the same contemptuous dismissal with which we look at witch-sniffers.
" the wrong Sabbath"
LOL. You are like a 6th-grader avoiding stepping on sidewalk cracks.
Serious question. Does jehovah get pissed if you shoot the kneecaps off an unarmed teenager on the Sabbath?
Does he "turn his face away from Israel?"
Frank you didn't address the specific points raised by the author and instead merely called him a "jew-hater". That's rather intellectually lazy, don't you think?
>>"Biden allowed Hamas and Hezbollah operatives to enter the country illegally. They have as much hate in their hearts for American Jew-haters like you as they do for Israelis. You might end up meeting one or more of them."
Both groups are jewish creations so yes I agree they are a threat. Meanwhile, promoting and enabling unchecked mass immigration into sovereign nations is also a core component of the jewish revolutionary spirit, so there's that.
>> "Here's more for you: Rockefeller, Morgan, Carnegie, Nixon, Obama, Mayor Pete, and countless other buttheads in finance and government were all not Jewish."
Au contraire. Lots of Canaanite / Phoenician blood in that group.
>>"Thanksgiving Day comes, and at precisely 3:00 the doorbell rings. She opens the door, and three black soldiers are standing there. "There must be some mistake!", she protests. One of the three speaks up and says, "No, ma'am, Lieutenant Goldberg never makes mistakes"."
Africans were sold into slavery predominantly by jewish slave traders and transported to the new world by jewish slave ships. And, with the exception of Israel, jews are notorious for avoiding military service. You know it's the Gentiles who do the fighting and dying in jewish wars.
>>"Moral of the story: Jew-haters never know when their hate will come back to bite them in the ass."
Projection?
>> "He lets you know that you will be in good hands with the new DEI hired doctors and nurses. "
DEI - another jewish creation.
You're saying those Jews aren't Jews?! But they are! That was just Obama's mother! By the way, DS Jews sometimes use philosemites to achieve their goals... Either they pay them or they're just useful idiots...
There is a DS non-Jew named Fauci. Did you take any of the shots he recommended?
THEY SAID IT OPENLY IN 1981!!! We just don't remember it anymore....😉😉😉
Jacques Attali's statement on population reduction:
This was written by Jacques Attali in 1981,(!!!!!) who was then an advisor to François Mitterrand:
"In the future, we must find a way to reduce the population. Let's start with the old, because as soon as they reach 60-65 they consume more than they produce, and this costs society a lot.
Then the weak, then the useless, who are of no use to society, because there will always be more of them, and finally the stupid. Euthanasia must target these groups, euthanasia must in any case be a fundamental tool of our future societies. Of course, we will not be able to execute people or build camps.
We will get rid of them if we make them believe that this is for their own good. Overpopulation is useless and economically too costly. From a social point of view, it is much better if a human machine suddenly stops, as when it gradually deteriorates.
We cannot test millions of people for their intelligence, but we find or create something, an epidemic targeting a certain group of people, a real economic crisis or not, a virus that affects the elderly or the overweight, the weak... They give in to fear and the idiots will believe it and allow themselves to be treated. We convince them that the treatment is there and that this treatment is the solution.
The selection of idiots then takes care of itself: they go to the slaughter. "[The Future of Life - Jacques Attali, 1981] Interviews with Michel Salomon, Les Visages de l'avenir collection, éditions Seghers." ...
Jacques Attali: "Euthanasia" as "one of the most important instruments for the future of societies" - Forum Natural Law and Humanism"
I didn't "vaccinate" and I didn't believe them from the beginning, as I've known about their plans for a long time. Faucci is not a member of the DS, he's just their dog. As are all the others who participated in this "test", genocide!
By the way, the DS will sacrifice Jews at any time if their power so desires! As has already been written, 95% of Jews do not even know who their religion believes in and what it stands for! But this is true for Christians, Hindus, Muslims, and all religions! Unfortunately, they did not start lying for power now, and the Jews were not the first!
Yes, I am aware that the deep state will take out Jews, and everyone else. Covid was a depopulation weapon, and so were the shots. Rockefeller is also in on the depopulation.
Have you seen this clip of Bill Cooper? He knew about 9/11 and was killed by the cops shortly after that. But he said, “It’s not the Jews, it’s not the Catholics, it’s not the blacks….:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fHmWcRZ72A
I probably would have let your apology for Christianity go, except for this sentence: "Christianity is incompatible with Zionism, which is a racist, apartheid practice closer to Nazism that it is Christianity."
National Socialism recognized and fought back against militant, subversive, parasitic Judaism, the parent ideology that Zionism springs from. Walking that liberating walk, even speaking out against the Jewish takeover of western democracies is still more than can be said for any branch of Christianity.
W/o Judaism, there could be no Zionism, just like there could be no communism. And I'd add, there could be no Christianity either. The idea of choseness is Yahweh's mandate for Jewish supremacy. Christianity has its own non-racial version of supremacy. You can not save your soul, its most important spiritual imperative, unless you become a Christian. No other gods may be recognized and not even heretical Christians will be saved.
I won't deny that NS shares some racist and apartheid practices w/ the Zionists. Both are racial-nationalist ideologies. They are looking to protect their own people because they believe there's something special about them, which is more than can be said for Christianity which turns the other cheek towards its enemy.
But there are also significant differences between NS and Zionism too. Don't you think? I think that might be a fruitful discussion.
Christian that still doesn't understand that Christianity is polytheistic (3 Gods) and therefore idolatrous. InB4 the kvetching about how "You don't understand the Trinity!" Crypto Jews were at the Council of Nicea to make sure Tritaniarinism was chosen over Arianism, because Arianism is not Polythistic and therefor Idolturous according to the Torah. But Tritaniraism is. This is why Jews don't believe in Jesus as God because only God can be God. The son of God can not be God. To worship the Son of God as God is to worship someone who is not God as God, and this is idolatrous. This is why Jews don't convert to Christianity. Jews know Judaism better than Christians do, and they know what can and can not be the Jewish Messiah.
Theophagy 🙊
So goyish
Eating false prophet blood and flesh on the wrong Sabbath 😜🤯😳😆😭😂
Rome is gone the third millennium of Israel is here, the church is dying and getting its ass kicked by Islam wherever it goes
Israel keeps winning wars that Arabs started and there are 24 less Christian countries than there were when the century began
The one true faith
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Backstabbing goyim when not stabbing Jews stab each other and then get stabbed by the Muslims, karmic delight according to the sinful gluttonous envious satanic devilish possessed illogical witch burning hypocritical sanctimonious self-hating goy and his near 40,000 different variations on crucifix worship 🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱
Those who bless Israel will be blessed those who curse Israel will be cursed
May the curse you've embraced continue to clap you upside the head often and forevermore as you worship a false prophet who needs to return a second time to accomplish what was not accomplished the first time 🙃🙄🤦🏿♀️🤷🙊😜🤦💨💩🕳️
Tldr
You deny that God gave Israel to the Jews 🤦🤔😳🙄😵💫🤦🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱 80 generations of Jews emanate from the land of Israel and 80 more generations will emerge from there as your flailing Faith fails and you turn your other church cheek while lamenting that Jews fight back.😂🤣😜
Nothing says failed Messiah like needing to return a second time to accomplish what wasn't accomplished the first time 🤦
"you deny that God gave Israel to the Jews"
Yes. I also deny that fish swallow men and vomit them back up on the beach three days later still alive, that snakes convince women to eat apples, that burning bushes can talk, that priests blowing horns can make city walls come down, that any real universal god could have a "chosen people," that religious progress has anything to do with committing genocide against innocent children, that the Jewish ritual murder of the Tsar and his family was anything but evil, that corrupting the morals of the gentile youth is part of "god's plan", that anyone can "prophesy" the future, that god has a written word, that god gets upset if you spell his name out without hyphens, that judaism is anything but a poison of which you are the evidence.
"You deny that God gave Israel to the Jews."
I would not deny it.
If you told us that your jewish asses are made of glass and we need to upholster the whole world to protect them from breaking I would not deny that your asses are made of glass.
I would just laugh at both absurd assertions and I would tell you that I don't care if you are a brain-washed moron or a brazen liar trying to justify with an imbecilic "rationale" a mass murder (an ethnocide) your lot committed while carrying out a grand larceny.
In either case you are not welcome among normal people.
-- 'Snacking" on blood? You're referencing judaic blood rituals, troll.
--'..retarded inbred midwit non-thinking Christian'?1?
Again you are projecting the systematic Jewish inbreeding leading to 22 major and several minor congenital abnormalities and diseases unique to your tribe onto "Christians" who are not a tribe, not even a single nation, let alone a single ethnic group.
This means that "midwit" would be an overly lenient label in your case, and "non-thinking" would be imprecise. Brain-washed for generations into tribal psychosis is more like it.
Even for Jew convulsed with virulent judaic hatred you are a very sick one. Go away.
Craig, please delete this spam. Posting the same trash again and again is a hostile act.
You are right. He serves as a useful example for gentiles just starting on their clear-pilling, but no one needs to wade through an ocean of such useful examples to get the point.
Hey Craig...
So I reposted "Judaism is Just Poisonous"... since 10:16 this morning (now 12:17) 5 of my subscribers have unsubscribed... 😳
Oopsie-daisy... 🚽💩 🤔
Capt Roy Harkness
So now you know how to cleanse your subscriber list...
Ah, you are shedding the intellectual cellulite. Thanks for reposting though.
To be precise, I cross-stacked your post, along with the comment : "Someone's got to start saying it." To paraphrase Gene Hackman in "A Few Good Men": "They can't handle the truth."
Yep, but I think that was Jack Nicholson. However, I think Gene Hackman would have said it more memorably. :)
I don't think I've ever in my life blocked someone, or deleted an account, or unsubscribed from something because I was "offended." That also goes for severing personal relationships. I think it says something about someone's integrity--intellectual and personal--when they do so.
If someone states an opinion, it is either rational or irrational. If irrational, then I rise to the challenge and try to say why. If rational, then I welcome the chance for enlightenment. Either way, it is a chance to hone and strengthen my own opinions.
"If someone states an opinion, it is either rational or irrational. If irrational, then I rise to the challenge and try to say why. If rational, then I welcome the chance for enlightenment.”
If you try to “say why,“ I.e.,show the fallacy of the irrational opinion, this serves a purpose, not because irrationality can be cured by reason but because in doing so you help many other readers more easily identify insanity/noxious agendas when they come across them. That works fine once, twice, a few times.
But what happens in practical terms if you continue to allow dozens upon dozens of noxious comments of irrational hatred (yes, there is such a thing as rational hatred: it is demonstrably rational to hate the “values” of judaism) that end up invading the comment section like locusts devouring a crop of healthy plants?
Short of deleting them and banning the posters perhaps a solution would be to identify them at the top with an editorial label, like NT (noxious troll) signifying "Reader beware.”
I do support, however, deleting comments that contain mindless vulgar insults.
Yes, I should have been more on top of this particular troll. Apologies to the readers.
I stand corrected. Thank you.
"...shedding the intellectual cellulite."
I wish I had come up with that taut description of both wilful ignorance and outright stupidity, but I grateful that you did.
I realize I keep repeating myself...but...you need to be published ... a REAL BOOK that we can hold in our hands.
Thank you, Arthur. I have started one in earnest. Your prodding pushed me to take the first step toward something I've always wanted to do.
That's great news!
Jews 🤷
Judaism.
I'm done apologising to judaists, if they're zio they are anathema. There's no nuance in g.e.n.o.c.i.d.e.
Believe me, I sympathize. But I think as human beings, maybe even as Christians, we have to hold out the possibility of redemption, no?
Alas, no. As an Xistian one can not even forgive the Papal Office…
"Xistian"
Formerly known as "Twitteristian?"
LOL
Just one thing about this great post; in my view only.
You state ""Albright” was a Jew. She was speaking of the 500,000 children Americans killed in Iraq." ..... yes they were killed, but by ONLY the SANCTIIONS AFTER the war, where many hundreds, maybe thousands of children also died, due to shootings, bombings etc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbCAOdNRp_4
Yes, thank you.
I believe she was talking of the children who died under Clinton administration in which she served. Prior to the 2003 invasion.
Just a copy and paste ..... 1996 she said it in, so yep..
"Albright, the first female secretary of state in United States history, made the remarks during a 60 Minutes interview. Correspondent Lesley Stahl discussed with the then-United Nations ambassador how Iraq had been suffering from the sanctions placed on the country following 1991's Gulf War.".
Journalist Jon Schwarz also added to the criticism of the decades-old comments. He said, "Some people remember Madeleine Albright said in 1996 it was 'worth it' for sanctions to kill 500,000 Iraqi children. No one remembers the sanctions were legally supposed to be lifted when Iraq had no WMD, which, of course, it didn't."
https://www.newsweek.com/watch-madeleine-albright-saying-iraqi-kids-deaths-worth-it-resurfaces-1691193
Journalist Jon Schwarz also added to the criticism of the decades-old comments. He said, "Some people remember Madeleine Albright said in 1996 it was 'worth it' for sanctions to kill 500,000 Iraqi children. No one remembers the sanctions were legally supposed to be lifted when Iraq had no WMD, which, of course, it didn't."
I don't really understand the point you and Bob Enough Bob are trying to make.
How is the "legality" of the US-imposed blockade on the Iraqi natioin that deprived the Iraqi children from access to vital medicine an attenuating factor in the US causing the death of 500,000 children?
How is that different from the "legality" of Israel doing the same in Gaza? Terrorist, murderous regimes usually commit unspeakable atrocities they wrap in the "legality" of their own making. Everything Israel does is "legal" by the same criterion.
It sounds like you object to the sanctions not being lifted when the lie about WMD was exposed, not to the sanctions being imposed in the first place.
Not at all. The originally term implied to me, that they were killed in the illegal war in Iraq and made no mention of being placed AFTER the illegal warfinished war had finished. Please read my original comment, where it is self-explained - as it was not a criticism per se, but a clarification.
Hope this clarifies and finishes the matter.
PS Regards Israel and Gaza, Lebanon etc... please do not even start me off, as my written response would get me arrested, by the thought police... and yes, I agree with your points on that.
Informative. Thank you.
Remember goibush lying to the world and saying that Islam was the religion of peace, typical gentile guile 💩
Remember cokehead goibush Junior who had male prostitutes come to the White House? Gentile guile with hypocritical lack of style 🙃
White man speak with fork tongue everywhere he trampled
Goitards like to remember Jews and ignore all of their toxic own or typically say that they're great great great great great great great great grandfather was Jewish as a slur, Goi'tardery 🤦🏿♀️🤦💨💩🕳️
The Creator aka God has no religion and cares not for money or possessions and only cares for creation of wholesome goodness.
Judaism must be outlawed.
Yes, but as political programs go, nothing is stronger than Judaism. That's why I say it will take a religious revolution to eradicate the threat to humanity that is Judaism. There is no political argument against enslaving the world. There is a religious argument.
How about we include, "There are uncountable MORAL arguments that transcend religion and political arguments.
I would put moral truths falling out of religious understanding.
I think the way to do it is to adopt the new chronology. Which has Christianity starting in 1185, and then Judaism being kicked off in the late 15th century as a way of hijacking the existing religion.
But the Rus converted to Christianity with a mass baptism in the river that runs through Kiev and then they destroyed the Khazar Empire, which had already been usurped by the Jews, in 1065
Think of the impossibility of Plato without paper. The whole of Ancient Greece and Rome become fantasies once you think that through.
My understanding is that very early fragments have been found, along with a decent size chunk dated to 895 of Platonic writings.
Once paper was invented and became relatively cheap there was a great incentive to invent history. The invented history overwhelmed anything that anyone thought they knew prior.
But at one point inventing history became a hybrid warfare project. The Russian mathematicians who have deciphered this think that after Emperor Andronicus Comnenus (posthumously Jesus Christ) was murdered in 1185 …… In 1204 he was avenged and these Boyar characters who weren’t executed were pissed at having to flee to Rome and perhaps Venice. But since they couldn’t fight militarily to get power back that’s when this full spectrum deep state control techniques began. Inventing history was a big part of that.
"Once paper was invented and became relatively cheap there was a great incentive to invent history."
Papyrus was not exciting enough?
Completely useless for historical narrative and competent literary writing. So whenever you see someone writing pretty well that has to be a couple of centuries post paper.
None of that has relevance since writing circa 1500 they backdated themselves hundreds and even thousands of years. It was just a trick.
Flailing in illogic like a jezebel
He never accomplished what he was supposed to accomplished according to the Jewish rules which you misappropriate misinterpret and misquote
Theophagy is an elemental facet of your religion, do you do special tricks with Monday morning poop after celebrating the Sabbath on the wrong day and consuming false god blood and flesh?
You are the God eater crucifixionists polluting Humanity with anti-civilizational anti-science anti-humanity anti-progress.
Tell me about Veronica the fictional character created in the 4th century who was reputed to have wiped the brow of JC with a piece of cloth that a 20-story cathedral in France houses, talk about gasping at desperation in a attempt to establish credibility 😂
Yet the Jews are still here in their Homeland repudiating your false Messiah all day everyday forever more as you turn your other cheek and lose lose lose
The reason it's called a crucifixion is if it was real it would be a crucifact 🤔
But nothing the Jew said mattered since they showed up around 1500 AD whereas Christ died in 1185.
The crazy crap that goyim say 🤣🙄🤔😂😜😭🤡😵💫👀
Nothing was accomplished that he promised would be accomplished yet you all keep claiming a second coming is coming to accomplish what wasn't 😵💫
Nothing backdated counts even a little bit. The Jews were writing AFTER Christianity as a scam.
Re: the killing of children.
Here in the South and Southwest portions of the United States, we are overrun with non-native wild hogs. They breed with a ferociousness unmatched by any other species. That have no regard for other species and will attack, killing and eating the young of other native wildlife. When they forage, they destroy much more than they actually eat (entire fields can be destroyed by one small sounder of hogs). When one field is destroyed, the hogs simply move on to other fields and continue the destruction. Efforts to eradicate the problem hogs have shown little effect. The only effective method is to destroy the entire sounder - males, females, and young - all at once. Any that escape will go on to breed and the problem continues.
One could also apply the above paragraph to describe certain ethnic groups.
Your repulsion to the killing of children is a fairly recent cultural belief. Most of recorded history shows men were fine with the killing of the enemy young. Sometimes it's the only way.
Ok, several things, here. First, exactly which ethnic groups are we talking about that are comparable to wild hogs. Jews? Blacks? Germans?
What ethnic group is yours? Guaranteed, someone in the world thinks your children should be exterminated because of the ethnicity you bestowed upon them. Are they wrong? What if they have more power over you as the Jews did over the gentiles in Russia? On what ground can you object when your children are shot in front of you?
(I'll note in passing that every war criminal compares his victims to animals.)
Appeals to historical precedent carry no moral weight. We don't throw virgins into volcanos to make the corn grow despite its historical pedigree.
The Native Americans typically exterminated vanquished tribes down to the last baby. In the Declaration of Independence, IIRC, the founders condemned the practice of the "savages" to slaughter irrespective of sex or age. So the revulsion I express at our activities in Palestine isn't THAT recent.
It might be an indication of our untethered phony Western morality that we condone the slaughter of children even though there is no benefit to us (except it will make Jesus come back). So even your utilitarian justification of evil fails.
There is no excuse. Long live Aaron Bushnell.
First. there are several ethnic groups where outspoken members have already openly stated that my ethnic group is evil, morally bankrupt, the scourge of the world, and should be eliminated to the very last man, woman, and child. BTW, I'm White. So your attempt to turn the argument around doesn't exactly work. I already live with the knowledge that there are jews, blacks, muslims (not necessarily an ethnic group) that would kill me and my family without hesitation. Thankfully we have the 2A in this country that at the very least gives us the option of fighting back.
Also, I'm not condoning the killing of innocent people. I'm just stating that pragmatically, it can be a solution. I don't think I could carry out the murder and/or genocide of innocent people. However, there are plenty of people that can do just that, so yes your core belief is a fairly recent cultural belief that derives from the Christian belief that all souls are equal before God. Not everyone shares that belief.
Finally, I really don't care what two different tribes do to each other halfway across the world. I'd be happy if a) we weren't involved in any manner, b) none of our people are sent to fight and die in that encounter, and c) we provide zero financial support to either side.
Like it or not, the blood of the Palestinians is on the hands of the Christian West from Lord Balfour and Woodrow Wilson to each and every one of us who hasn't raised a voice against the war crimes taking place today.
Anyone who worships a God who gives somebody else's land away is worshiping an alien and evil false God. The Palestinians are innocent victims, just as the Russians were, just as the Germans were. We should be deeply ashamed of our willingness to be used for evil purposes. We can't just opt out.
Christians have to come to the conclusion that Judeo-Christianity is not Christianity. The institution of Judeo-Christianity is no different than the institution of Judaism. Jesus knew YAHWEH is Satan.
The Holohoax saved them because up until then the demonic parasites couldn't co-exist with humans and now they own every important institution in the social engineering of Americans and likely humans in general.
It also keeps Shlomo Six-Pack on the ranch.
Judaism seems to be a huckster cult, where the main goal of their god is to advance their tribe’s fortunes - mostly and even at the costs of non-jews. The Talmud is basically a glorified rules of thumb - heuristics if you will - for tribal profit - literally. i have not seen one moral statement of value on their books - it all seems fake, fraudulent and if it were for the fact that judaism is thus responsible for millions of deaths over the past 100 years i would leave them alone
Well stated
Thanks, The article below provides a pretty good history on the origins of Christian Zionism, who created it and who funded it and for what purpose. Perloff also compares the Scofield bible with the King James which is informative.
The War on Christianity, Part II: The Abomination and Blasphemy of Christian Zionism
https://jamesperloff.net/war-on-christianity-part-2/
I do wonder what the bible would look like if Jesus showed up among a different Tribe in another part of the earth- would the new religious text that resulted incorporate the fundamental beliefs of that tribe? We interpret things based on our own history, customs, understandings, and beliefs when something we have never experienced occurs - we seek to make sense of it with the tools we have. Just a thought.
Thank you for linking to that very thorough (and very long) article. A lot of important information in there.
I wish there were a summer camp somewhere that gave rising seniors in any of the evangelical Christian colleges and seminaries in the country an all-expenses-paid two week retreat in which this article and a few other texts were carefully studied.
A deprograming camp for followers of the cult of Zion.
On another note, Have you ever read the Red Symphony by Landowsky (1968)?
It provides a rare insight into the techniques of global enslavement, the staging of wars, and those behind the curtain of the World Revolutionary Movement. It is a transcript of the questioning of the accused C.G. Rakovsky (former Ambassador in France, an operative of the international bankers and one of the founders of Soviet Bolshevism) by G.G Kus'min (NKVD) on 1/26/1938. Rakovsky, believing he was to die soon and was obviously assigned the task by "THEM" to educate Stalin as to the folks organizing and funding the revolution, who were in charge and their ultimate goal.
After studying this document, the hands behind "history" became clearer. It is the same playbook, nothing is spontaneous or random.
https://ia803404.us.archive.org/32/items/landowsky-j.-red-symphony-chapter-40-1968/LANDOWSKY%28J.%29-Red_Symphony_Chapter40_%281968%29.pdf
Billy Thistle and I discussed that book about a year ago. I remember something vaguely from it having to do with the pleasure the Bolsheviks took in witnessing a betrayal of a gentile ally. The bigger the betrayal, the larger the crowd gathered to watch.
But to be clear, you are saying this is the actual transcript from the actual interview and not a dramatization?
This is the actual transcript ch 40 in Red Symphony - I don't know if the other chapters were ever translated. This was put out as a small book. It is probably one of the most eye-opening book I have read. It is also on Audible, hard to believe. There are many surprises in there. I knew the 1929 crash was planned but I always assumed it was so the ownership of the most profitable companies could be purchased on the cheap - no the purpose was far more darker. I knew FDR prolonged the depression - but it looks like he was either one of THEM or blackmailed (like Wilson was). There is an Interesting part about freemasonry and how it fits into the revolution and the secret they never disclose to the members. Also interesting discussion on where Marxism came from and what Marx did not disclose. Trotsky was chosen by THEM - but Lenin then Stalin came in and the international revolution focused on a more local one - which pissed THEM off - they tried to overthrow Stalin and put Trotsky in, but that failed (that is what the show trials were about). The goal was to take out all of Europe. Since that did not work out they funded Hitler and created the conditions which would force him to rescue the Germans that were being tortured or killed in Poland. Rakovsky's goal was to inform Stalin via this interrogation that he should enter a pact with Hitler for Poland - he assures him that the European countries would not attack the Russia and funding would be forthcoming. Everything played out according to the plans. Hitler had no idea who was funding him as explained by Rakovsky. Once Hitler broke away from the international bankers - he signed his death warrant.
Example
On the Mythical power of money and “THEIR” ambition of Absolute Power: Rakovsky explains: “They had acquired for themselves the real privilege of coining money… “Imagine.. a small number of people, having unlimited power through the possession of real wealth, and you will see that they are the absolute dictators of the stock-exchange; and as a result of this also the dictators of production and distribution and also of work and consumption. If you have enough imagination then multiply this, by the global factor and you will see its anarchical, moral and social influence, i.e. a revolutionary one. The Capitalistic system of production is determined by finance. These people control moneys in unlimited amounts, insofar as they themselves create them. Why should not these people, the bankers, have the impulse towards power, towards full power? … Such power as Stalin has in the USSR, but world-wide. …. Absolute power has a purpose in itself, otherwise it is not absolute. And until the present day there has not yet been invented another machine of total power except the Communist State… Those who already partially rule over nations and worldly governments have pretensions to absolute domination? Understand that that is the only thing which they have not yet reached.”
THEIR plan has not changed - they are just using different tools to achieve it.
Enough.
Taking up space to repeat the same demented inanities full of judaic hatred again and again in the comment section of this blog is the metaphoric equivalent of the murderous settlers occupying stolen land where they don't belong,
They likely ripped off from other Levantine religions and called it their own; other than elevating a former Canaanite God of Metallurgy into a deus primus.
Call it “anti-Semitism”, call it the “ultimate blasphemy” for all I care, I bet the Sumerians, Babylonians, Canaanites, Akkadians, Egyptians clearly did not appreciate that an ancient thieving roving culture such as themselves with no original ideas in their bones nicked off their mythologies only for them to turn around and have the utter cheek to call other deities “false gods” and demanded their highly-bastardised mythos to be worshipped!
Lucifer's societies say "contract makes the law." Jews & Vatican are two big contract worshipers.
Hmm, interesting comment. But Vatican, too?
In your view what are the alternatives? Force is one, of course. What else?
Was the first appearance of Christianity and the overturning of the old world a Bolshevik Revolution in its own right (by the same tricksters)? Sure seems like it had all the traits.
“Shadow Rome: Ballad of the ANTI-CHRIST”
https://youtu.be/gfALeXLKNiQ
The bottom line here is, are you a true follower of Christ and His teachings? Set aside religions which are man-made constructs and infiltrated by evil. There is no middle ground when innocent human life is concerned. If one stands with Jesus Christ, one follows His teaching to love thy neighbor as yourself. We can clearly see that what is going on in this fallen world is contrary to loving thy neighbor, and should therefore be rejected.
Well, Jesus goes even further. He said "Love your enemies." I think that's a problem, because it leaves nothing to hate. Hate, itself, becomes the sin, and, truly, most Christians believe exactly that. But hate is just an emotion like any other emotion and it's there for a reason.
Suppose there is a man who has terrified his wife into submission and he is raping their daughter. She may need to rely on hate to give herself the motive power to take the steps necessary to ensure he can't harm their daughter again. If she acquiesces in the abuse because she believes it is a sin to hate, then that belief becomes the sin, so to speak.
Emotions are only ever rational or irrational. If I hate you because you are raping my daughter or destroying my people, that is rational hate. If I hate you because you were born in Mexico, that is irrational hate.
After the religious evolution, humans will understand that there is no such thing as an evil emotion, or a virtuous one. Hate isn't always bad. Conversely, love isn't always good.
I also believe religious truth is independent of notions like "true follower of Christ" and "standing with Jesus." And I believe Jesus would agree.
I don't think that the wife needs to rely on hate to leave her husband, she needs to rely on common sense, cause and effect. If I leave him, he can't hurt us anymore, not hate. She can hate the sin while removing herself from the situation. Jesus told us that we must learn to forgive or we will not be forgiven. As hard as that is, it makes sense. We do not beat the devil by hate, that is his game. We defeat the devil by following Jesus and trusting that He knows what He is talking about. It is a hard lesson, but we need to fully understand how the enemy works. He works through negative emotions like hate, jealousy, corruption, etc. and Jesus is the opposite, He works through love, grace, and forgiveness. That is what I mean by being a true follower of Christ, it is not easy, but it is the only way to defeat the enemy.
Why should she leave her abusing husband if, according to your interpretation, she should just "learn to forgive"? She should hate her bruises and broken bones but not the "sinner" who caused them?
What is hate going to accomplish? If she leaves him, she removes herself from the situation.
"What is hate going to accomplish?"
Your question implies that you think that hate is a means to an end one can deliberately choose or reject to "accomplish": something., instead of a natural emotion, a first defensive response to harm done by a hostile offender. Part and parcel of the survival instinct.
As Craig explains, the SPCL's 'fight hate" is an attempt to suppress this natural defense mechanism, and the "hate" they want to suppress is very selective, as we all know. How does your "forgive your sinner and just remove ourself from the situation" advice work out in the case of Irrational judaic hatred against the non-Jews ("Amaleks"). For the most part the ever-forgiving Christians have turned the other cheek and accepted to 'remove" themselves from control of all levers of power of their own nations and gradually from their culture and traditions.
Jesus' teachings are the highest moral tenets any religion has come up (peaceful, universally compassionate, just and tolerant) but, unlike, for example, the peaceful but solipsistic religions of the far east, ENGAGED. He doesn't advocate watching your navel, and meditating, striving for perfection to achieve nirvana. He advocates being the good samaritan.
On the other hand, Jesus has given his followers an ideal to strive for. toward which they are to strive asymptotically (like parallel lines that can never meet because the human cannot touch the divine, except for the martyrs and saints).
It is a utopia and must be seen as such. An ideal against which to measure your life and aspire to better yourself, not a literal Users' Manual, the way the Talmud is for the Jews ("kill and rob with impunity because you are "chosen") .
In his real world, "sinners" may "smite" you and you should turn the other cheek. They may even crucify the most inconvenient of you to their hold on power, and you must ask God to forgive them for they know not what they are doing.
In our world, they know what they are doing and they don't just 'smite' you, they plan to genocide entire nations (see Palestine) and destroy your families, religion, culture and traditions in their quest for supremacy..
Where will you "remove" yourselves to, having forgiven the sinner?
The good Samaritan didn't hate, Jesus didn't hate and neither should we. We will not remove ourselves, we will most likely be martyred or imprisoned just like those in Gaza. Hate never wins, it is always losing even when it gives the illusion of winning. What it comes down to is that it is all based on perspective. Jesus died on the cross, but He still won. Negative energy feeds the darkness, we need to stop feeding it.
In other words, if you fall into hate and revenge, then you are no different than those you are hating.
He may abuse her, intimidate her, psychologically manipulate her into thinking she deserves the abuse. He may threaten her with killing her and their daughter if she leaves or goes to the authorities. She may be paralyzed with terror. But if he is raping their daughter, hate could be useful and it would certainly be rational.
Instead she successfully refuses to hate him because Jesus told her not to and the father destroys his daughter and the mother cries out to Jesus, How could this have happened? I have piously refused to hate, and yet evil triumphed. My daughter is destroyed.
Jesus will say to her, you stupid woman. You had all that god-given hate you could have used, and you consciously refused to use it. You sacrificed your own daughter for the benefit of your own piety. You are guilty of the destruction, too.
What is hating him going to do for her? She can either remain with him or leave. If she is afraid to leave him, how is hating him going to solve the problem?
"God-given hate"? We are not born hating, we are taught to hate. If you think that Jesus would call her stupid for not hating her husband, you are wrong. What does hate accomplish? murder? revenge? Does Jesus support those things? No He does not.
>> He works through love, grace, and forgiveness. That is what I mean by being a true follower of Christ, it is not easy, but it is the only way to defeat the enemy.
If I need forgiveness, it is because I've wronged someone, right? If I want to be forgiven, the way to do that is to go to that person and seek forgiveness. At that point, it is up to that person to forgive. Or not.
Jesus has no say in the matter, and, it seems to me, that by claiming he does and then asking Jesus for forgiveness for a wrong I did to someone else just cuts out all the tough stuff.
Are you saying that we only forgive people who ask for it? What if that person is dead? Should we carry the burden forever or choose to forgive them?
Right. We don't have the right to be running around forgiving people who haven't asked for it. For one thing, they might not feel they've done you wrong. And in fact, maybe they haven't. Maybe you are the one in the wrong and you just forgive your victims as a clever way of blaming them unjustly. Damn right you better not forgive me for something without my permission.
And what is this “burden?” Are you saying that if someone has wronged you, the wrong continues until you pretend it never happened?
So if someone wrongs you whether they agree or not that they did, you are not allowed to forgive them? If someone steals from you, and you know they did but they deny it, you should never forgive them and free yourself? Should you instead carry that anger and seek revenge?
Forgiveness is not pretending it never happened, it is an act of letting it go. It is saying that you will not hold it against them anymore. The burden is what you hold inside (anger, fear, resentment) that eats you up.