I keep thinking about Aaron Bushnell. Not just about him, but about the reaction to his act of protest.
For the young men in our society who know there is something terribly wrong with what is going on, in Gaza and elsewhere, I can only imagine how hard it must be to be feeling so impotent right now - right at the moment in their lives when they should be feeling most powerful.
The level of inversion in our world is getting untenable. And maybe that is a sign that things are about to snap.
The average man has always been impotent to the machinations rich and powerful. And even those who rise up and do something about it - to what does it amount? Think of John Brown. Gary Webb. Kiki Camerena. Malcolm X. All water under the bridge and nearly forgotten. And all of them killed by the beast system for their troubles. But their deeds are accounted for in heaven, where they really count. Great men.
I certainly hope I am correct and this Aaron Bushnell thing is just another psyop, another little orchestrated event to keep the confusion and outrage ever growing. But I see your point about the snap and am surprised there is not more of it.
Amen, Your Eminence! I'm going to share it with some of my favorite churchlings. They're very high class ones but every single American needs to access this homily.
I've been reading Les Visible's blogs for years, and he's the closest thing I've come to discovering a living Holy Man - though he would no doubt shun the title. (One of his favourite sayings is "I don't know.")
What I like about him is that he is completely politically aware when it comes to a particular Tribe of people, who he likes to refer to as The Usual Suspects, but he is also able to put everything into a spiritual perspective forged over a (very bizarre) lifetime. (He's an octogenarian, so he's been around the block a few times... and to prison... and to the looney bin. But I'm sure he has never harmed a flea.)
Anyhow, like I said, he won't be everyone's cup of tea, but I thought I'd post the link since I do get succour from his words. Especially in these trying times.
Spoiler alert: he believes we are going through incredibly tumultuous times, but it's the beginning of something much better. You just have to figure out how to hang on for the ride. It starts with knowing that God is inside you.
True religious insight. One of Dostoevsky's, too. You'll never hear those words from the lips of John Galt, or Leon Trotsky, or John Hagee or any religious fundamentalist or Satanic Yahwehist. They have all the answers. Is it ok to kill a flea on the Sabbath? What do you mean, you don't know? Look it up. The answer is in the Sacred Magic Book.
Thanks for the link. Definitely going to check it out.
Hah! Only a few seconds in and I see he has a 9/11 litmus test. I don't know how his works, but mine worked for me with the Jab.
Craig's Doctor: Would you like to get your COVID vaccination while you're here?
Craig: No.
Craig's Doctor: Um, as Craig's Doctor, I strongly encourage you to.
Craig: No, sorry, I don't trust it.
Craig's Doctor: You know, I am highly trained in the science. I have spent many hours reading all the technical literature (that would be way above your head) and, as Craig's Doctor, I can assure you, you can absolutely trust the science.
Craig: Dr. Craig's Doctor, let me ask you a question. Do you believe in The Miracle of the Two Airplanes, Three Skyscrapers?
Craig's Doctor: Huh?
Craig: Do you believe that on September 11, 2001, some Arabs hijacked planes and ran two of them into skyscrapers in Manhattan, causing three of them to fall down at free fall speed into their own footprints?
Craig's Doctor: <blink><blink> Uh, well, 9/11? Yeah, I mean, I don't...three of them? But, sure....
Craig: See? Nothing personal, but if you believe in The Miracle of the Two Airplanes, Three Skyscrapers, I can't trust your judgment. You see, it's not the science I don't trust, it's the scientists. As a highly trained observer of human bullshit, with a specialty in Zionist Jewish Talmudic Yahwist Bullshit (which is way above your head), I don't trust the narrative on COVID-19 at all--especially the vaccines. So, thank you, but I'm not getting jabbed.
I also noticed that 37 minutes before I looked at his site, he had another visitor from Kansas!
Craig, I thought you are Christian but to disrespect God like this tells me certainly not. "...Abraham was going to do to his own son before he came to his senses and told Jehovah to go fuck himself."
I am culturally Christian, so Christmas means something to me it never can to a Buddhist, and, as a member of Christian society, I instinctively feel a duty to relieve the suffering of humans, if I can, and so on.
I am religiously Christian only because the power of Dostoevsky's Christian apologia caught me by my coattails and pulled me back from permanent estrangement, but his power is in his art, I think, not so much in his philosophy, and that may be because art is the more appropriate vehicle to convey religious truths--at least for me, perhaps. I don't know, but the other apologists I've read--the Christian philosophers--don't move me. Aquinas, Augustine, Pascal, Kierkegaard (who, admittedly, I couldn't grasp)--though giants and "right"--don't do it for me on a religious level.
The Scottish philosopher, John MacMurray, had a big impact on me and he is considered a Christian apologist, but the Christian part seemed a little tacked on to me and it was his straight philosophy that I found worthwhile, mainly because it is accessible and works in real life unlike guys like Kant and Hegel, who construct these marvelous elaborate unassailable castles that strike awe in everyone for their grand and intricate complexity, but they are like castles with no doors. You can only admire them from a distance. MacMurray let's you come in and settle down permanently.
Nietzsche's attack on Christianity seemed valid to me, but his famous dictum that God is dead wasn't triumphant, it was despairing. It's too bad he went insane. It would have been interesting to see where he ended up. He did say that Dostoevsky was the only novelist who ever taught him anything, so there's that.
What I am not, most definitely, is a "Judeo-Christian," an oxymoronic absurdity if there ever was one. The modern Christian church, in the West, anyway, is very far from anything resembling religious truth. The proof is in its utter failure to protect the civilization it claims to have created. The John Hagee abomination is only the most egregious and ugly example of what a fraud Christianity has become, in my view. The entire church is a millstone around our necks, and, if Christianity is to survive and play the role that religion needs to play in human affairs, it has to be completely revolutionized. First and foremost it has to jettison non-religious ideas like sacred magic books and end times and prophecy and talking snakes and God hates fags and loves genocide and all the rest of the "earthly" primitive anthropomorphic conceptions that are "written." That's why I write things like "Abraham told Jehovah to go fuck himself." In my view, it's Dostoevsky's answer to John Hagee. It's Jesus turning over the tables of the money-lenders.
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Nietzsche?
Ever since I came across Ayn Rand I've had this sneaky suspicion that Nietzsche's Supermen, the Ubermensch, are those Chosen ones. Who believe they are put on earth to use, abuse and exploit the rest of us so that they may create a pathocracy (a system of government 'wherein a small pathological minority takes control over a society of normal people'). To create Hell on Earth where satanic values rule and the little people live small, petty lives dominated by failure, poverty and suffering.
I know we're all supposed to think Ubermensch are like Superman or Elon Musk but I'm not convinced. Could Nietzsche have been influenced by the successful, exploitative and narcissistic Jews who were so prominent in his society at that time? And so good at exploiting the less fortunate.
Has anyone seen a Western called The Big Country? Gregory Peck plays the role of the ideal Christian and is contrasted with 3 Supermen. Two kill each other while one changes, following Peck's example he learns to be a good shepherd to the 'little' people under his command. Peck gets the girl. What I liked about the film was how the Supermen revealed the real nature of Rand's heroes - they are unpleasant people. A trait implicit in Nietzsche's concept of the ideal or superior person which, I believe, is actually a description of a sociopath.
I was introduced to Rand before Nietzsche, so I came at this whole thing from a different direction. I had read Atlas Shrugged at 19 and again a couple of years later, so, unsurprisingly, by the time I was 23, I was insufferable. To make matters worse, the first Nietzsche I read was Thus Spake Zarathustra. It was like throwing pebbles at mountains. I suspect that I made it through the book because I imagined I made a striking figure on the No. 6 Lexington Ave local, dressed in my anarchist outfit , reading Nietzsche, and getting off at Cooper Union. It certainly wasn't because I was finding anything nutritious in the book. At least that I'm aware of.
I hope my fellow riders were charitable in their judgments on account of my youth.
So, I don't have a clear grasp of what Nietzsche meant by his supermen. If he was shilling for the Jews by presenting them as Howard Roarks and Elon Musks and Peter Thiels, then boo hiss Nietzsche. If he was presenting them a intellectual heroes who could climb up out of the morass of Christian slavery, then that's another story.
I do know that my heart aches for the young German soldiers who died of mustard gas poisoning in the trenches of the Jews' First World War with copies of Thus Spake Zarathustra in their inside breast pockets. But my heart also aches for the young American, English, French (and Canadian!, Anna) soldiers who died the same way with copies of the New Testament in theirs.
"I don't have a clear grasp of what Nietzsche meant by his supermen."
I looked into him, trying to find some summary of his ideas but most people seemed to share your experience of being unclear on what he was actually saying. I assumed that if better people than me didn't understand then it wasn't worth wasting my time trying to figure him out and never bothered reading the originals. I believe his sister destroyed his papers (which apparently expanded upon his controversial view of Judaism) to ensure that it would remain a mystery. So, despite my ignorance I feel free to speculate on what he may have meant.
Yeah, but why does it have to be a renewal of traditional Christianity? The magic of Jesus is that by believing in him you are saved. I'm not so sure if its worth keeping that bit of magic if you want to deny all the rest. And yes, I realize a lot of the OT is satanic magic. But do you want to preserve any magic at all? I like Jesus because I think he was a saint / enlightened, a wise man and a great teacher. But copying the pagan resurrection thing seems unnecessary to me. I see Jesus in much the same way as I see Buddha, as a teacher of how to live with yourself and others and how to find the Divine within oneself. But not as a magical man. Am I disagreeing with you?
I don't think our society can excise Christianity any more than a man can excise digestion. It's simply part of us and, in a very real sense, Hollywood's relentless attacks on Christianity are, really, attacks on us, though most of us are too obtuse to see that and imagine they are attacks on "religion."
To exterminate Christianity is to exterminate us; John Hagee is an ally of the Jews in more than just his contemptible support for the murder turds of Zion.
'Hollywood's relentless attacks on Christianity are, really, attacks on us, though most.... imagine they are attacks on "religion."'
Indeed. Christ was teaching a philosophy that was designed, among other things, for an urban society. One where you have to get on with strangers in a constructive manner. He was right because the tribal, desert values, of kill or be killed were unworkable in the context of the civilization of the Roman Empire. Western civilization has absorbed those values and sees the world thru them, no longer thinking of them as 'christian'. Even Woke seeks to establish a fair society where all are equal. (That they think cancelling, jailing and re-education camps are the way to attain their dream is a perversion - the intrusion of 'desert' values taken from Marxism.)
When I was a schoolboy my Religious Ed. teacher tried explaining that Christianity was really the same as socialism.... Yes, I suffered thru Cultural Marxism. But he had a point. When you wish to change a society and the values of Christianity so permeate it then its better to 're-interpret' the Christian story than to replace it. Perhaps the revolution in Christianity you seek could come about by using the NT to teach Christ's moral philosophy. Contrasting it with the values of his enemies. Explaining that they had him murdered and they are still waging war upon all that is good in the world. In the temptation on the mount Jesus explicitly rejected the role of Superman (become the Jewish massiach and "I will give you dominion over all that you can see"). He did this by rejecting evil, telling it to 'get behind' him. So the moral teaching is already in the biblical story. Why not forget the Resurrection, just teach that Satan, his followers and their immoral system is a danger to all good men?
Is this the revolution in Christianity you seek? Isn't it more or less what most of us here already believe & think? Isn't that what Gregory Peck exemplifies in The Big Country?
This approach would preserve most of what is good in Christianity while creating a culture that is 'vaccinated' against evil. This would, essentially, be teaching the moral and cultural values of Greek philosophy that so inform Christianity. Whilst arming the people against the Satanists. I think the imminent changes coming to society; deep fakes, unending propaganda, the loss of employment as robots become ubiquitous and AI out thinks humans... then we 'little people' will be at continual war with an elite who see us as 'useless eaters'. Armageddon will not come as we see it depicted in the bible but more in the form of something like Blade Runner + 1984 + Gibson's Snow Crash.
Yes, I think that is something like what I only vaguely imagine. Certainly I reject virgin births and resurrections and walking on water and all the stuff that forces Christians to be stupid and gullible. I think there is a divinity to be found in the Christ story (and Aaron Bushnell's supreme sacrifice) but it certainly has nothing to do with Yahweh--it is aggressively opposed to the blood drinker vampire god. (Communion gotta lose the "this is my blood" stuff, too).
There is a need for man to contemplate the Divine, to leave some things mysterious (I don't discount ghosts and demons), to find reward in the non-material world, to maintain traditions and celebrate holidays, and, above all, to act rationally in the world as it really is (Palestinians are not "sub-human").
Lets take that as a hypothesis: How could a new religion (or something else but playing a similar role) come to exist? What process might lead society to produce the sort of reformation you wish to see?
I suspect we'd need to see the current system torn down and all its moralizing and moral values brought into question. This is not only inevitable but we are living thru it now:
I can't fault his logic and can't see any way our civilization will avoid self destructing. Not just destroying the ties that keep society together but also the moral values that justify them. This destruction will lead to a period a chaos - economic, social and moral chaos. Creating the need for a new system of moral values, one capable of being the foundation of a new society. It will be built upon the ruins of this one, and will presumably include the best parts of our Christian culture.
Eventually we will see a new system of moral values arise. It may take a period of chaos, if not hellishness, before they are forged. But a new civilization will not be able to arise without having the foundation of a shared moral system upon which to build its society. It will take time, but i think you will get your wish.
If you read carefully you will see that the Jehovah is sometimes depicted in ways that reveal his true nature. Several times he is revealed to be like a dragon and thus akin to the Serpent in the Garden of Eden. It can be argued that the OT contains several different 'Gods'. But with the god of the OT Jews primarily being Satan, as many rabbis well know. Its not new to say that the God of Jesus is not the same as the god of the Jews. I think Jesus himself made this clear on several occasions. Most clearly when talking to a Pharisee he says 'Your god is the devil, a murderer and the father of lies'. (Tho' that explicit phrasing is, I think, only found in one translation of the bible there is something similar in all of them.)
Agghhhh, I'm bit! It was a commentor on this site who listed them. I've done a google search but can't find the comment. Sorry about that. He had 4 or 5 examples. But more importantly, a few comments about the god of the Jews being Lucifer (Satan). I won't give you any quotes on that either. But only because its an old issue and refs to it are easily found in a search on Yandex.com.
The other day I was doing a burn pile, burning accumulated brush, and I always wait to do it in a rainy day for extra precaution. It’s been raining for a bit in my part of California, and rain was predicted for that morning. It felt like rain, the clouds were there, and it should have been raining, but…you could hear the annoying chemtrail planes up there spraying whatever they spray to disrupt the rain. Some days they seed the clouds, other days they disrupt it, other days they block the sun, and other days they magnify the sun and cook the earth. This used to be a kooky conspiracy theory, but it’s so painfully obvious at this point, that you really have to be completely preoccupied with video games or other silliness to not see it. And that’s just them toying with the weather, and there is absolutely nothing anyone can do about it. Should we all go light ourselves on fire?
I still don’t believe the Aaron Bushnell thing, but if it is true, it very well could be an MK Ultra thing (another open conspiracy at this point).
If you are such a believer in immolation as an effective statement, why are not setting yourself on fire? Not that I am suggesting that; just calling you on your bullshit.
Thanks for the gallows humour, Reverend Nelsen.
I keep thinking about Aaron Bushnell. Not just about him, but about the reaction to his act of protest.
For the young men in our society who know there is something terribly wrong with what is going on, in Gaza and elsewhere, I can only imagine how hard it must be to be feeling so impotent right now - right at the moment in their lives when they should be feeling most powerful.
The level of inversion in our world is getting untenable. And maybe that is a sign that things are about to snap.
Let us pray.
The average man has always been impotent to the machinations rich and powerful. And even those who rise up and do something about it - to what does it amount? Think of John Brown. Gary Webb. Kiki Camerena. Malcolm X. All water under the bridge and nearly forgotten. And all of them killed by the beast system for their troubles. But their deeds are accounted for in heaven, where they really count. Great men.
I certainly hope I am correct and this Aaron Bushnell thing is just another psyop, another little orchestrated event to keep the confusion and outrage ever growing. But I see your point about the snap and am surprised there is not more of it.
Well worded Craig
Amen, Your Eminence! I'm going to share it with some of my favorite churchlings. They're very high class ones but every single American needs to access this homily.
On the subject of finding paths for exploring spirituality...
This guy won't be everyone's cup of tea, but he is mine.
http://www.zippittydodah.com/2024/03/someone-please-bring-in-musicians-so.html
I've been reading Les Visible's blogs for years, and he's the closest thing I've come to discovering a living Holy Man - though he would no doubt shun the title. (One of his favourite sayings is "I don't know.")
What I like about him is that he is completely politically aware when it comes to a particular Tribe of people, who he likes to refer to as The Usual Suspects, but he is also able to put everything into a spiritual perspective forged over a (very bizarre) lifetime. (He's an octogenarian, so he's been around the block a few times... and to prison... and to the looney bin. But I'm sure he has never harmed a flea.)
Anyhow, like I said, he won't be everyone's cup of tea, but I thought I'd post the link since I do get succour from his words. Especially in these trying times.
Spoiler alert: he believes we are going through incredibly tumultuous times, but it's the beginning of something much better. You just have to figure out how to hang on for the ride. It starts with knowing that God is inside you.
(One of his favourite sayings is "I don't know.")
True religious insight. One of Dostoevsky's, too. You'll never hear those words from the lips of John Galt, or Leon Trotsky, or John Hagee or any religious fundamentalist or Satanic Yahwehist. They have all the answers. Is it ok to kill a flea on the Sabbath? What do you mean, you don't know? Look it up. The answer is in the Sacred Magic Book.
Thanks for the link. Definitely going to check it out.
Hah! Only a few seconds in and I see he has a 9/11 litmus test. I don't know how his works, but mine worked for me with the Jab.
Craig's Doctor: Would you like to get your COVID vaccination while you're here?
Craig: No.
Craig's Doctor: Um, as Craig's Doctor, I strongly encourage you to.
Craig: No, sorry, I don't trust it.
Craig's Doctor: You know, I am highly trained in the science. I have spent many hours reading all the technical literature (that would be way above your head) and, as Craig's Doctor, I can assure you, you can absolutely trust the science.
Craig: Dr. Craig's Doctor, let me ask you a question. Do you believe in The Miracle of the Two Airplanes, Three Skyscrapers?
Craig's Doctor: Huh?
Craig: Do you believe that on September 11, 2001, some Arabs hijacked planes and ran two of them into skyscrapers in Manhattan, causing three of them to fall down at free fall speed into their own footprints?
Craig's Doctor: <blink><blink> Uh, well, 9/11? Yeah, I mean, I don't...three of them? But, sure....
Craig: See? Nothing personal, but if you believe in The Miracle of the Two Airplanes, Three Skyscrapers, I can't trust your judgment. You see, it's not the science I don't trust, it's the scientists. As a highly trained observer of human bullshit, with a specialty in Zionist Jewish Talmudic Yahwist Bullshit (which is way above your head), I don't trust the narrative on COVID-19 at all--especially the vaccines. So, thank you, but I'm not getting jabbed.
I also noticed that 37 minutes before I looked at his site, he had another visitor from Kansas!
If you get into Les Visible's posts, it's easiest to follow him by going to his Gab account for links to his latest posts:
https://gab.com/visible
Or you can find his articles posted daily (Mon-Fri) at
https://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/
He writes a daily article? Damn. Is he on drugs?
We used to get a commenter from that website, who, I think, was offended and stopped coming by.
Visible has probably done just about every drug under the sun. These days, though, he's just on God.
Craig, I thought you are Christian but to disrespect God like this tells me certainly not. "...Abraham was going to do to his own son before he came to his senses and told Jehovah to go fuck himself."
I am culturally Christian, so Christmas means something to me it never can to a Buddhist, and, as a member of Christian society, I instinctively feel a duty to relieve the suffering of humans, if I can, and so on.
I am religiously Christian only because the power of Dostoevsky's Christian apologia caught me by my coattails and pulled me back from permanent estrangement, but his power is in his art, I think, not so much in his philosophy, and that may be because art is the more appropriate vehicle to convey religious truths--at least for me, perhaps. I don't know, but the other apologists I've read--the Christian philosophers--don't move me. Aquinas, Augustine, Pascal, Kierkegaard (who, admittedly, I couldn't grasp)--though giants and "right"--don't do it for me on a religious level.
The Scottish philosopher, John MacMurray, had a big impact on me and he is considered a Christian apologist, but the Christian part seemed a little tacked on to me and it was his straight philosophy that I found worthwhile, mainly because it is accessible and works in real life unlike guys like Kant and Hegel, who construct these marvelous elaborate unassailable castles that strike awe in everyone for their grand and intricate complexity, but they are like castles with no doors. You can only admire them from a distance. MacMurray let's you come in and settle down permanently.
Nietzsche's attack on Christianity seemed valid to me, but his famous dictum that God is dead wasn't triumphant, it was despairing. It's too bad he went insane. It would have been interesting to see where he ended up. He did say that Dostoevsky was the only novelist who ever taught him anything, so there's that.
What I am not, most definitely, is a "Judeo-Christian," an oxymoronic absurdity if there ever was one. The modern Christian church, in the West, anyway, is very far from anything resembling religious truth. The proof is in its utter failure to protect the civilization it claims to have created. The John Hagee abomination is only the most egregious and ugly example of what a fraud Christianity has become, in my view. The entire church is a millstone around our necks, and, if Christianity is to survive and play the role that religion needs to play in human affairs, it has to be completely revolutionized. First and foremost it has to jettison non-religious ideas like sacred magic books and end times and prophecy and talking snakes and God hates fags and loves genocide and all the rest of the "earthly" primitive anthropomorphic conceptions that are "written." That's why I write things like "Abraham told Jehovah to go fuck himself." In my view, it's Dostoevsky's answer to John Hagee. It's Jesus turning over the tables of the money-lenders.
That's my Christian witness.
Thanks for your comment.
Nietzsche?
Ever since I came across Ayn Rand I've had this sneaky suspicion that Nietzsche's Supermen, the Ubermensch, are those Chosen ones. Who believe they are put on earth to use, abuse and exploit the rest of us so that they may create a pathocracy (a system of government 'wherein a small pathological minority takes control over a society of normal people'). To create Hell on Earth where satanic values rule and the little people live small, petty lives dominated by failure, poverty and suffering.
I know we're all supposed to think Ubermensch are like Superman or Elon Musk but I'm not convinced. Could Nietzsche have been influenced by the successful, exploitative and narcissistic Jews who were so prominent in his society at that time? And so good at exploiting the less fortunate.
Has anyone seen a Western called The Big Country? Gregory Peck plays the role of the ideal Christian and is contrasted with 3 Supermen. Two kill each other while one changes, following Peck's example he learns to be a good shepherd to the 'little' people under his command. Peck gets the girl. What I liked about the film was how the Supermen revealed the real nature of Rand's heroes - they are unpleasant people. A trait implicit in Nietzsche's concept of the ideal or superior person which, I believe, is actually a description of a sociopath.
I was introduced to Rand before Nietzsche, so I came at this whole thing from a different direction. I had read Atlas Shrugged at 19 and again a couple of years later, so, unsurprisingly, by the time I was 23, I was insufferable. To make matters worse, the first Nietzsche I read was Thus Spake Zarathustra. It was like throwing pebbles at mountains. I suspect that I made it through the book because I imagined I made a striking figure on the No. 6 Lexington Ave local, dressed in my anarchist outfit , reading Nietzsche, and getting off at Cooper Union. It certainly wasn't because I was finding anything nutritious in the book. At least that I'm aware of.
I hope my fellow riders were charitable in their judgments on account of my youth.
So, I don't have a clear grasp of what Nietzsche meant by his supermen. If he was shilling for the Jews by presenting them as Howard Roarks and Elon Musks and Peter Thiels, then boo hiss Nietzsche. If he was presenting them a intellectual heroes who could climb up out of the morass of Christian slavery, then that's another story.
I do know that my heart aches for the young German soldiers who died of mustard gas poisoning in the trenches of the Jews' First World War with copies of Thus Spake Zarathustra in their inside breast pockets. But my heart also aches for the young American, English, French (and Canadian!, Anna) soldiers who died the same way with copies of the New Testament in theirs.
"I don't have a clear grasp of what Nietzsche meant by his supermen."
I looked into him, trying to find some summary of his ideas but most people seemed to share your experience of being unclear on what he was actually saying. I assumed that if better people than me didn't understand then it wasn't worth wasting my time trying to figure him out and never bothered reading the originals. I believe his sister destroyed his papers (which apparently expanded upon his controversial view of Judaism) to ensure that it would remain a mystery. So, despite my ignorance I feel free to speculate on what he may have meant.
Yeah, but why does it have to be a renewal of traditional Christianity? The magic of Jesus is that by believing in him you are saved. I'm not so sure if its worth keeping that bit of magic if you want to deny all the rest. And yes, I realize a lot of the OT is satanic magic. But do you want to preserve any magic at all? I like Jesus because I think he was a saint / enlightened, a wise man and a great teacher. But copying the pagan resurrection thing seems unnecessary to me. I see Jesus in much the same way as I see Buddha, as a teacher of how to live with yourself and others and how to find the Divine within oneself. But not as a magical man. Am I disagreeing with you?
No, you and I seem to be in perfect agreement.
I don't think our society can excise Christianity any more than a man can excise digestion. It's simply part of us and, in a very real sense, Hollywood's relentless attacks on Christianity are, really, attacks on us, though most of us are too obtuse to see that and imagine they are attacks on "religion."
To exterminate Christianity is to exterminate us; John Hagee is an ally of the Jews in more than just his contemptible support for the murder turds of Zion.
We need a revolutionary, not an exterminator.
'Hollywood's relentless attacks on Christianity are, really, attacks on us, though most.... imagine they are attacks on "religion."'
Indeed. Christ was teaching a philosophy that was designed, among other things, for an urban society. One where you have to get on with strangers in a constructive manner. He was right because the tribal, desert values, of kill or be killed were unworkable in the context of the civilization of the Roman Empire. Western civilization has absorbed those values and sees the world thru them, no longer thinking of them as 'christian'. Even Woke seeks to establish a fair society where all are equal. (That they think cancelling, jailing and re-education camps are the way to attain their dream is a perversion - the intrusion of 'desert' values taken from Marxism.)
When I was a schoolboy my Religious Ed. teacher tried explaining that Christianity was really the same as socialism.... Yes, I suffered thru Cultural Marxism. But he had a point. When you wish to change a society and the values of Christianity so permeate it then its better to 're-interpret' the Christian story than to replace it. Perhaps the revolution in Christianity you seek could come about by using the NT to teach Christ's moral philosophy. Contrasting it with the values of his enemies. Explaining that they had him murdered and they are still waging war upon all that is good in the world. In the temptation on the mount Jesus explicitly rejected the role of Superman (become the Jewish massiach and "I will give you dominion over all that you can see"). He did this by rejecting evil, telling it to 'get behind' him. So the moral teaching is already in the biblical story. Why not forget the Resurrection, just teach that Satan, his followers and their immoral system is a danger to all good men?
Is this the revolution in Christianity you seek? Isn't it more or less what most of us here already believe & think? Isn't that what Gregory Peck exemplifies in The Big Country?
This approach would preserve most of what is good in Christianity while creating a culture that is 'vaccinated' against evil. This would, essentially, be teaching the moral and cultural values of Greek philosophy that so inform Christianity. Whilst arming the people against the Satanists. I think the imminent changes coming to society; deep fakes, unending propaganda, the loss of employment as robots become ubiquitous and AI out thinks humans... then we 'little people' will be at continual war with an elite who see us as 'useless eaters'. Armageddon will not come as we see it depicted in the bible but more in the form of something like Blade Runner + 1984 + Gibson's Snow Crash.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snow_Crash
Yes, I think that is something like what I only vaguely imagine. Certainly I reject virgin births and resurrections and walking on water and all the stuff that forces Christians to be stupid and gullible. I think there is a divinity to be found in the Christ story (and Aaron Bushnell's supreme sacrifice) but it certainly has nothing to do with Yahweh--it is aggressively opposed to the blood drinker vampire god. (Communion gotta lose the "this is my blood" stuff, too).
There is a need for man to contemplate the Divine, to leave some things mysterious (I don't discount ghosts and demons), to find reward in the non-material world, to maintain traditions and celebrate holidays, and, above all, to act rationally in the world as it really is (Palestinians are not "sub-human").
Lets take that as a hypothesis: How could a new religion (or something else but playing a similar role) come to exist? What process might lead society to produce the sort of reformation you wish to see?
I suspect we'd need to see the current system torn down and all its moralizing and moral values brought into question. This is not only inevitable but we are living thru it now:
https://www.anarchonomicon.com/p/short-take-public-choice-theory-and
I can't fault his logic and can't see any way our civilization will avoid self destructing. Not just destroying the ties that keep society together but also the moral values that justify them. This destruction will lead to a period a chaos - economic, social and moral chaos. Creating the need for a new system of moral values, one capable of being the foundation of a new society. It will be built upon the ruins of this one, and will presumably include the best parts of our Christian culture.
Eventually we will see a new system of moral values arise. It may take a period of chaos, if not hellishness, before they are forged. But a new civilization will not be able to arise without having the foundation of a shared moral system upon which to build its society. It will take time, but i think you will get your wish.
Jehovah isn't God.
You’ve not read much of his stuff, eh?
If you read carefully you will see that the Jehovah is sometimes depicted in ways that reveal his true nature. Several times he is revealed to be like a dragon and thus akin to the Serpent in the Garden of Eden. It can be argued that the OT contains several different 'Gods'. But with the god of the OT Jews primarily being Satan, as many rabbis well know. Its not new to say that the God of Jesus is not the same as the god of the Jews. I think Jesus himself made this clear on several occasions. Most clearly when talking to a Pharisee he says 'Your god is the devil, a murderer and the father of lies'. (Tho' that explicit phrasing is, I think, only found in one translation of the bible there is something similar in all of them.)
Ok, I’ll bite. Give me some verses that show him to be a dragon. I can think of only one; let’s see what you have.
Agghhhh, I'm bit! It was a commentor on this site who listed them. I've done a google search but can't find the comment. Sorry about that. He had 4 or 5 examples. But more importantly, a few comments about the god of the Jews being Lucifer (Satan). I won't give you any quotes on that either. But only because its an old issue and refs to it are easily found in a search on Yandex.com.
The other day I was doing a burn pile, burning accumulated brush, and I always wait to do it in a rainy day for extra precaution. It’s been raining for a bit in my part of California, and rain was predicted for that morning. It felt like rain, the clouds were there, and it should have been raining, but…you could hear the annoying chemtrail planes up there spraying whatever they spray to disrupt the rain. Some days they seed the clouds, other days they disrupt it, other days they block the sun, and other days they magnify the sun and cook the earth. This used to be a kooky conspiracy theory, but it’s so painfully obvious at this point, that you really have to be completely preoccupied with video games or other silliness to not see it. And that’s just them toying with the weather, and there is absolutely nothing anyone can do about it. Should we all go light ourselves on fire?
I still don’t believe the Aaron Bushnell thing, but if it is true, it very well could be an MK Ultra thing (another open conspiracy at this point).
If you are such a believer in immolation as an effective statement, why are not setting yourself on fire? Not that I am suggesting that; just calling you on your bullshit.
"If you are such a believer in immolation as an effective statement, why are not setting yourself on fire?"
Why haven't you crucified yourself?
Because, as you know, it was only necessary for one man to do that.
No, I don't know that and neither does your sacred magic book.
Man?